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« Thread Started on Apr 29, 2008, 6:26am »

My 95' has developed a steering wheel column issue. The column is starting to move around on me a bit when I turn the wheel. I can sit there and phyiscally move the whole steering wheel AND column up and down in with my hands. I have had issues like this in my older GM cars like my Monte Carlo and Regal but this just recently started. Is there any way to "tighten" this back up? Does it have anything to do with the tilt wheel portion of the steering column?
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« Reply #1 on Apr 29, 2008, 6:43am »

it's famous pivot pins...
how to fix it - you have to take all cowling off the column first:
proceed like that: (remove)
lower sound insulator (with lamp), fuel/trunk+light panels, knee bolster, then you will be able to:
take 3 'external torx' bolts from underneath the column cowling, separate upper cowl; next take out other 3 bolts from there - take off the lower cowl. note that some of the torx bolts there is very deep, so you'll need slim extensions.
now, the steering wheel pivots on 2 pivot pins, which are basically metal-on-metal bearings. the pins FALL OUT with time. you will have to find them and put them back in their holes.. but as there is metal on metal friction, you may need to create makeshift 'gasket'.. ie. take some thin tape and put some around pins, then PRESS them in the holes. taht's what i have dun and i have FIRM steering wheel now...
this is one of gm surprises =)
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« Reply #2 on Apr 29, 2008, 11:14am »

Kliff a lot of us have this problem. If you get it apart please take a picture of where the pin's go so that we have a visual idea of what is going on. Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #3 on Apr 29, 2008, 2:26pm »

Its added to the mega list of things this car needs.
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« Reply #4 on Apr 29, 2008, 4:38pm »

Mine does that too. I'm just gonna leave it, it's not that bad. And i never tilt my wheel from where i have it set anyways.
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« Reply #5 on Apr 30, 2008, 7:17am »

I have the same problem and was getting ready to tackle it in a few days. The info above sure will help. I was going to go at it blind. BUT

Mine is going side to side (lose from 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock) Do you think it's the same pin issue?
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It deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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« Reply #6 on Apr 30, 2008, 7:24am »

YES ! IT IS ! dive in there and you'll see all laid bare there. again i have to press that - the design GM went for there is unbelievable. what lifespan the wanted aurora to be ? 4 years max ?? these pins are abomination.

duley, your BOTH pins FELL OUT and your wheel is now attached to column by the flex-joint. jerk it more - the joint will brake and that wont be DIY anymore.
i advise all ppl to FIX that ASAP ! it's a safety hazard
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« Reply #7 on Apr 30, 2008, 6:32pm »

I had this same issue for some time. Pulled the wheel, the column covers and found the pivot pin from the right side laying in the dash. It had fallen completely out. I popped it back in and used a chisel on the edge of the hole in the column itself to prevent it from falling out again.

Mine had been moving side-to-side...
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« Reply #8 on May 1, 2008, 4:49pm »

Same issue, easy fix.

Tip: You don't need reverse torx deep socket to remove the reverse torx screws. An equal sized standard deep socket will also lock onto them.

Just play around with your deep socket set until you find the right one, I forget which size I used.


*Edit* Really is a safety hazard, don't ignore this, it's easy to fix, fool-proof, worse you'll do is crack the cowling and it doesn't even show when it's put back together. Verses potentially losing control of the Aurora and you're left with a dead aurora, and possible a dead you. :|
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« Reply #9 on May 3, 2008, 2:26pm »

I fixed mine today and took some pictures.

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Passenger side pin. It is threaded so I put a bolt in it so that it is easier to work with. mine had not fallen out but this one was loose.

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Picture of passenger side pin removed. I attached a pair of needle nosed vice grips to the bolt and taped them with a small hammer till it popped loose.

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I tried to score the pin with the dremil tool this did not work. I also tried duct tape to no avail, surprisingly super glue worked perfectly (didn't have any lok tight)

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Picture of driver side pin. I don't see how this one could fall completely out as you would have to remove the cruise switch thing to get it all the way out. I did a little preventative maintenance and put a little S.G. on it as well and tapped it back in. All together it took me about an hour but if I had to do it again I think it would go quicker.
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« Reply #10 on May 3, 2008, 6:04pm »

good one jason ! resize pics pls
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« Reply #11 on May 3, 2008, 6:49pm »


May 3, 2008, 6:04pm, lynzoid wrote:
resize pics pls


I want to but don't know how. :-X Can I do it without rehosting?
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« Reply #12 on May 3, 2008, 7:19pm »

yeap, use 'messageboard size picture 640x480' from imageshack choices, or just use 'thumbnail' ones.

mate, just to clarify - you superGLUED them in ??
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« Reply #13 on May 3, 2008, 7:39pm »

Just re hosted, a pain but it looks much better. Yes, Super glue, it just happened to be what I had on hand at the time. I tried a couple of different things on one pic you can see where I tried Teflon tape ::) but Super glue worked the best. I thought for sure going in to this project that just scoring the pin would do the trick so I was a little unhappy when it didn't work but the Super glue was a very successful surprise
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« Reply #14 on May 3, 2008, 7:41pm »

MUCH better thanx mate !
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