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« Thread Started on Jan 27, 2009, 9:40am »

how many people know here that the toronado was really the first gen's before the aurora? apperently the aurora got it's bodyline's and such from the continueation from the toronado they just changed the name.

personally I never knew this until yesterday when I found it online at the safety recall site
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« Reply #1 on Jan 27, 2009, 1:03pm »

cite sources?
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« Reply #2 on Jan 27, 2009, 1:35pm »

http://search.google.dot.gov/NHTSA/NHTSA....tqr=0&sort=date:D:L:d1&output=xml_no_dtd&client=default_frontend&ud=1&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&site=NHTS A_Pages


straight from that site here is a picture I took from their PDF file

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« Reply #3 on Jan 27, 2009, 1:49pm »

Toronado -

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Aurora -

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I can see some of it but you wouldn't have many people look at both the Aurora and the Toronado and say "Hey, it is just a newer version". The trunk line is very similar, the way the window slopes down and becomes the trunk lid. Other than that I do not see many other similar lines. It's wheel wells stick out but not like the Aurora's.

This is a similar case with the Caprice Classic. The newer model is no longer produced in America, but if you looked at the two you wouldn't connect the dots. The only real standout I can see by looking at these two is the way the side windows go to a point back by the trunk.

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thats the new caprice? heck id buy that if ford offered it here!
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Jan 27, 2009, 1:56pm, robaurora01 wrote:
thats the new caprice? heck id buy that if ford offered it here!


??? Ford ??? try Chevy ;)

Does look good though....suicide doors 8-)
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Jan 27, 2009, 9:40am, robaurora01 wrote:
how many people know here that the toronado was really the first gen's before the aurora? apperently the aurora got it's bodyline's and such from the continueation from the toronado they just changed the name.

personally I never knew this until yesterday when I found it online at the safety recall site


I would not call the Aurora a continuation of the Toronado but it did take the place of Oldsmobiles top offering. :)
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Jan 27, 2009, 1:49pm, RapMastaC1 wrote:
Toronado -


I can see some of it but you wouldn't have many people look at both the Aurora and the Toronado and say "Hey, it is just a newer version". The trunk line is very similar, the way the window slopes down and becomes the trunk lid. Other than that I do not see many other similar lines. It's wheel wells stick out but not like the Aurora's.


Maybe he is referring to the outgoing toronado not the older one pictured ???
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Jan 27, 2009, 9:40am, robaurora01 wrote:
how many people know here that the toronado was really the first gen's before the aurora? apperently the aurora got it's bodyline's and such from the continueation from the toronado they just changed the name.

personally I never knew this until yesterday when I found it online at the safety recall site


I think you're talking really about marketing, aiming toward a certain demographic, filling a hole in GM's offerings, etc. It is not so much as "continuation" but moreso filling a spot in GM's offering that was left void by the absence of the Toronado. It is not as close of a relationship as your original post seems to imply.

In terms of "Replaced the Oldsmobile Toronado in MY 1995," I would disagree with this statement. It is not as straightforward as that.
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« Reply #9 on Jan 27, 2009, 4:00pm »

re: original Toro vs Classic, muscular shoulders, aerodynamic nose, full length taillight lense, front wheel drive...I think Olds definately looked "back" when designing the Classic.
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Jan 27, 2009, 3:00pm, kaykirk wrote:

Jan 27, 2009, 1:56pm, robaurora01 wrote:
thats the new caprice? heck id buy that if ford offered it here!


??? Ford ??? try Chevy ;)

Does look good though....suicide doors 8-)


im sorry your right chevy :P got use to all the crown vics that I was thinking of that. but if chev did bring that here that exact type car it would be bought by majority of the younger people no problem
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« Reply #11 on Jan 27, 2009, 7:43pm »

David North, the fellow who designed the Toronado, also did (before he retired at GM), the "Classic" Aurora as well. It is not sercet that the 1st generation Toronado, lookes very similar to the Classic Aurora, because of Mr. North's style.

I can not understate why you AURORA fans, have not joined the Toronado Owners Assication ($30/year)? This club is open to all 1966-1992 Toronados and ALL Auroras .
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« Reply #12 on Jan 27, 2009, 9:08pm »

isnt that new caprice a HOLDEN?

and sign me up for two of those black and silver please. today. and if it comes with a t56 or something close all the better.
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Jan 27, 2009, 6:28pm, robaurora01 wrote:
im sorry your right chevy :P got use to all the crown vics that I was thinking of that. but if chev did bring that here that exact type car it would be bought by majority of the younger people no problem

They did. It is called the Pontiac G8...
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« Reply #14 on Jan 27, 2009, 10:21pm »

Hello;
I am new to this forum and late to this thread. I don't know really how much if any of the Toro styling was incorporated into our Auroras. The original version was to be released by Cadillac division. This also is a little known fact. I have the original media release package announcing the new Aurora by Cadillac It was my understanding that the Aurora started as a Cadillac concept that was awarded by G.M. to Odsmobile to bolster sagging sales within the division. That may explain the lack of Oldsmobile identifacation anywhere except on the radio.
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