Caleditor's proposed PCM tuning

Randy seems to think I have never tuned a car. Must be limited

I am still tuning cars and it seems that I am getting a name to iron out the hard to tune cars that other tuners can get correct. I just finished a 1999 Vette with an A&A supercharger that had been to a tuner 4 times and the tuner finally gave up and told the customer that’s the best I can get it as it bucks going down the road at 40 mph. This car came to me from the local Chevy dealer

Then a week before that I fixed a CTS-V with Heads, Cam, Intake, Long Tubes that wouldn't even idle. That car was at a local import dealership

I am tuning a 2005 Vette next week on the dyno that has Heads, Cam, Long Tubes, That has been a complete nightmare for the owner. Misfire, 2 bad sets of lifters, Trans went out after the engine was replaced. Manual trans with an oil cooler. The guys that put in the engine let all the fluid drain out and never refilled it.

The 38 Panel is almost ready to fire up and get tuned also.

but

Randy says I have never tuned a car.

We are still tuning a lot of Trucks.

I have a feeling this is gonna be "Around the Water Cooler"

This ain't looking good. Looks like someone's going to get banned from here as well.

This forum has limited tolerance for pretty much anything.

Every forum will have members that disagree, have issues, etc.

Now, if someone was being a blatant troll (which is not the case, I don't think I've actually seen a blatant troll on here in the two years I've been a member.) I would understand, but sheesh.

Sometimes arguments can bring up good points, sometimes they can't. But it's the nature of a discussion board for this to happen. He hasn't done anything wrong to get banned.

I've only been on this forum for about 2 weeks, so I don't know the history/ issue too much regarding Madtuner, which I'm thinking is this member called Ion, which caleditor is friends with and works with trying to tune auroras?
But I think it's safe to say theres a ton of aurora members dying for a PCM tune. SO apparently madtuner can tune 96-03 Auroras, but some members state otherwise. Instead members stated to check out Wester's Garage because he can tune Auroras. I checked the website and it only says that tuning is available for 1G auroras, not 2G auroras. Well has anyone actually gotte a tune from Westers Garage on their aurora yet? I havent seen anyone's reply on the threads stating they got their aurora tuned from Wester or a tuned Aurora...period. So is there anyone floating around out there with a successful PCM tune? Because like all the other members out there wanting their Aurora tuned, I'm one of them. I dont want to be a guniea pig, I want it to be fact that it works. I send my PCM out for tuning, shortly after get my PCM back, attach the PCM, do case learn and I'm good to go. It's my daily driver! When I owned a supercharged Regal GS, it was simple, go to Intense- racing, ZZP performance, 3800 performance etc...get a PCM to drive around in while your's is sent out, get your PCM back tuned, install it and your done. Does this seem like the future for the Aurora's yet, or is this just B.S. giving Aurora members hope and possibly scamming them out of money since the scammers know it's something people want and will pay for.....

Really? That didn't make things better?

Until someone has a GPS verified top speed in excess of 143 on a non-autobahn, all Aurora tuner threads are drivel to me.

Well if he wont accept payment, that doesnt bother me, atleast he isnt just taking money and giving nothing in return. If hes waiting for completion of his own before he does, thats great....no one will be a ginuea pig. He will test his own and work the bugs out before a customer gets screwed, sounds good business to me. On the otherhand why wouuld Wester put on his site tuning for 1G's if no one successfully tuned these cars....

You realy think posting that month old thread into the 3800 forum would get you recognition?

All I see on that forum are some thick headed a-holes...
"drive that pos olds into the pond"

We drive a better quality car than them anyday no matter what car came with the 3800.

Cal don't try and start a forum war. Proof or Nothing. None of us ever said "we need help learning how to tune"
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It is can someone with the capabilities to tune a northstar" which to date still really hasn't been proven by a reputable source.

Aura, much appreciated. Nice to have someone who knows more looking out. Whats your take on Westers? He offers tuning....but any success with that? Everyone mentions him, but I havent got feedback that ITS BEEN DONE and its the go to place.

First off, I apologize for my leave of absence as of late. My mother had surgery that she was putting off until right after my graduation and I put off starting my job so that I could help her with the recovery. It has been a busy few months for me!

I just came in on this thread. Everyone seems to puff their chest out a little on the internet, it's alot easier to type things that you don't mean a couple hours later.

The driving reason behind the "tolerance" here isn't liking someone over another, it is to protect the members. This is a free, non-profit forum. We have no need for sponsorships or anything of the sort because we don't require any money to run. That aside, however, we still don't offer any kind of special space or club endorsement to someone who has an unproven product. If we allow someone to advertise on the forum who can't provide references that we trust, then we can't risk that person potentially ripping off a forum member. In his thread he mentioned that he would be willing to do a couple tunes for people for free to verify that it all worked, but I never heard anything back on the matter. Had forum members plugged in the tuned PCMs and said "yep, they work perfectly." then I would have no problem throwing up a marketplace sticky with that thread/posts as a reference telling people what can be done with it.

As it stands right now, though, Westers is the only place that we have hard evidence that we can get a tune from them. I don't know if that's as accurate, though, since the references aren't on the board any longer. The bottom line is that the forum (and the staff) cannot endorse or encourage a salesperson on the forum that we don't know to be trustworthy.

There are a lot of surrounding circumstances, but no matter how the original situation was handled I extend my original invitation: If you are trying to prove your product why not modify a PCM for a one (or two) established members of the forum who can vouch for the results? If someone who hasn't been involved in the argument can give a 100% yay-or-nay on the product then we can put all of this behind us.

Up until now this is the only evidence that we have had:



Sall is an established member and if his experience is that the service is unreliable, then we can't encourage the service to other members of the forum.

Ideally someone who has access to a dyno could test this out; either that or a long stretch of unattended roadway/local dragstrip where the car can be taken up past where the factory limiter would be.

Further discussion is encouraged with this topic in mind, but let's move it on from there. Any flaming will be removed.

I wouldnt mind taking a plunge for a few hundred bucks, but can tuning be applied to a 2nd gen junkyard PCM and be installed in my aurora in place of my stock so I dont lose driving time? If that can be done, im game

whaaat?

Caleditor had another name on this forum, ajxtcman. I think that is where the thought originated. We hear so much talk about tuning but never any action; when someone mentions dropping a couple hundred bucks on a tune it seems out of place haha. No worries, man!

Caleditor did offer to send a tuned PCM to one of the members to prove that it worked, though. I, for one, think that this is a great idea. I would do it personally if I weren't an admin, I don't want to use the situation for my own gain. It would be easy for someone to go get a junkyard PCM that matches their year and send it to caleditor for him to tune, I guess the most that you would lose is the cost of the PCM plus shipping if it didn't turn out. I'd like to see my Aurora tuned as much as the next guy but I'd like to do it through a confirmed source as funds are tighter right now in my case. But if you feel like risking being the guinea pig then the forum will definitely benefit from your transaction!