My 97 aurora had ran out of gas and now dont run

[vegasbigman]

Please help me, 1st I know it is bad to run out of gas (well it was hard to get to the gas station i was in middle of the dessert and I ran out as I was going in to the station)
ok that out of way let's get to the problem.
I put the gas in the car and it won't start at all
I try'ed clicking the key several time to let the fuel pump pick up the fuel and fill the lines.
I try'ed to turn over the car after it just cranked over but not start
so I try'ed to get it to start with starting spray in carb it started then when ether is gone died
I checked the fuel lines no fuel
so I had checked the fuel rail no presure
then I went down to the line comming out of tank and turned key
and got a face full of gas from the pump
so the fuel pump works
but the fuel line still not presurizing and in turn the car is not starting
I checked relays filters I don't know what else to do
please help I got to get it going is there any way or trick to get the line
filled back up so I can get it running I'm beside myself and fighting this car
is getting to me and I don't know what to do to get it done and running again
mechanics that are by me don't want to touch the aurora ever so I have to do it myself for olds dealers are no more so are their shops so I'm on my own doing the work on this car help me!!!!!! Thank you

[glennda5id]

Did you check your fuel filter? Where did you disconnect the fuel line exactly? At the fuel pump in the tank?

[oldwino]

Really the only thing between the fuel pump and the fuel rail is the filter. Assuming it's not clogged, you could possibly hold the schrader valve open at the fuel rail and do the key on, no start thing a few times to let the air out of the lines and see if you get gas up to the rail that way. Just be careful because it'll spray all over the place once it reaches the fuel rail with the valve held open.

[vegasbigman]

I took it off where it comes out of the tank
where else would there be a filter besides the one on the fuel filter
or the fuel regulator
which I have changed them both so they are new

[vegasbigman]

I also have had the valve on the end of the rail open also
I have had the fuel line taken off where it conects to the regulator off to still no gas
in line

[mattn]

Have you checked to see if the gas line is kinked anywhere between the fuel pump in the trunk (where you know gas is coming out), and where you disconnected the line just in front of the FPR, and fuel rail, (where you know that no gas is coming out)?

Are you sure the fuel filter is not blocked? Mine is a 97, and has a fuel filter under the car, about 12" from the outside frame, about where the driver side passenger door is.

Have you disconnected the fuel filter to see if gas is getting that far? I think the input to the fuel filter it is a quick connect fitting, and the output end of the fuel filter has a bolt/threaded line, If gas is getting to the fuel filter, you can reattach the input side, and unbolt the output side to see if fuel is getting through the fuel filter.

I think that after the fuel filter, it's just a line all the way to the fuel rail, and would have to be blocked or kinked if gas is not getting through.

I know there is a fuel return line going back to the fuel pump, it comes out of the FPR, and maybe if that line is blocked, gas can't get to cricuclating out of the fuel pump (This is just a question I'm asking, I'm not sure myself). Maybe a problem in that line and prevents fuel pump from pushing gas all the way to the fuel rail?

[vegasbigman]

Fpr ?? And checked no kinks in line anywhere fuel firer is now new and still have prob how do you perg air out of fuel return line? If that is prob I need to know how thanks

[mattn]

FPR is Fuel Pressure Regulator.

It would be the next thing on the fuel line after the fuel filter. I am jst saying you know 1 place where fuel is working ok, and that is at the pump. My idea would be to start checking other places down the fuel line from there to see where fuel is, and where fuel is not present. This would be the fuel filter (input and output), then the FPR (you could take that out and see if fuel is getting that far. The next places the fuel goes is in the fuel rail/injectors, and can be measured (seen) on the valve at the end of the rail). Just because a part is new, like the fuel filter, does not guarantee that it works, you know.

The only other path I am aware of is the return line that comes off the FPR, that takes excess fuel back to the fuel tank.

I am not saying air in the return line is a problem or not. I am just guessing, and giving you something else to look at, if you could not see gas anywhere else in the line - after the fuel pump - and if you know for sure the fuel pump is working. (You should also be able to hear the fuel pump buzz for a second or two when you first turn the key to ignition m, without starting the car).

Also I could guess that even if the fuel pump sprayed gas in your face, andit may have seemed like a lot, that maybe it is not actually all that much, and not enough pressure to get it up the fuel line, and get up to the correct fuel pressure your car needs to start.

[dens95olds]

Its your fuel filter, when you go that low in gas, your pump will pick up all the junk, sticky jelly gas, deposits and clog your filter.

[glennda5id]

Disconnect the line just before the fuel filter. Do does gas come out? If not, then then line is clogged between the pump and the tank.

[cbburtraw]

Try disconnecting the line just after the fuel filter as well. Telltale way to know if your filter is clogged...

[scottydl]

As mentioned, the fuel filter is located along the frame sorta underneath the rear door on the passenger side. It's slightly smaller than a soda can, about the same proportions. Newer fuel pumps / sending units are a little smarter nowadays and filter better in the tank (i.e. the idea of "bottom of the tank gas" being bad is not as true as it used to be)... but the filter is still certainly something to check.

[lanceslambos]

reed valve in pump? that's strange i ran my '97 out of gas 3 times and that's when i decided to get a cell phone again. mine always started right back up just as soon as it had a drop of gas again. this almost has to be the fuel pump i think. if it's fuel pump be prepared to spend about $300.00 for OEM replacement. don't do the ebay fix kit. every mechanic i know says they don't last long, to go with OEM