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Post by renaldo0613 on May 28, 2012 21:35:30 GMT -6
I know we can drive with the parking lamps, and fog lamps on without the low beams being on during the day light. Is there a way we can drive the same at night?? I've noticed when it's dark outside that you can't do the same. Soon as your put the car in gear the low beams automatically come on. Now I know it's not safe to ride around without the low beams being on at night, just wanna know if everyone else's Aurora does this too. If I recall correctly I was able to ride with just fogs, and park at night in my first aurora if memory serves me correct.
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Post by bobsblue95 on May 28, 2012 21:50:32 GMT -6
Maybe your DRLs are kicking on? 95 models didn't have them and some people disabled them.
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 28, 2012 22:23:27 GMT -6
I've unplugged The DRL's so it does not ruin my HID's It was doing the same thing prior to disconnecting the DRL's.
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 28, 2012 22:24:26 GMT -6
I've seen dts, ride around during dusk with just the fogs, and parking lamps.
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Post by wireless on May 28, 2012 23:47:15 GMT -6
To put it bluntly, no. lol I tried so many times, & never could get mine too, no matter the combination I did. You could pull your headlight fuse
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Post by nelson480 on May 28, 2012 23:56:56 GMT -6
95 you can
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 0:00:33 GMT -6
Darn it
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 0:01:32 GMT -6
To put it bluntly, no. lol I tried so many times, & never could get mine too, no matter the combination I did. You could pull your headlight fuse Now were talking ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 2:36:04 GMT -6
I know we can drive with the parking lamps, and fog lamps on without the low beams being on during the day light. Is there a way we can drive the same at night?? I've noticed when it's dark outside that you can't do the same. Soon as your put the car in gear the low beams automatically come on. Now I know it's not safe to ride around without the low beams being on at night, just wanna know if everyone else's Aurora does this too. If I recall correctly I was able to ride with just fogs, and park at night in my first aurora if memory serves me correct. Try turning your twilight sentinel all the way down/off. And than once you start the car, turn the switch to just parking. It may do it that way. Or you could pull the DRL module. It really is not hard at all. I know the way listed above was how I could over ride my DRL's on my 02 DTS.
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Post by sall on May 29, 2012 6:17:42 GMT -6
I know we can drive with the parking lamps, and fog lamps on without the low beams being on during the day light. Is there a way we can drive the same at night?? I've noticed when it's dark outside that you can't do the same. Soon as your put the car in gear the low beams automatically come on. Now I know it's not safe to ride around without the low beams being on at night, just wanna know if everyone else's Aurora does this too. If I recall correctly I was able to ride with just fogs, and park at night in my first aurora if memory serves me correct. Yes, you can do that during the day if the DRL resistor is disabled. I doubt your first Classic was able to do this when dark outside without very minor modification. It is very possible to do this at night though. To put it bluntly, no. lol I tried so many times, & never could get mine too, no matter the combination I did. You could pull your headlight fuse Yes, it is possible! I know because... you guessed it I can do it on my Aurora! Not sure about this. Not much experience with '95. If it has an ambient light sensor then no, not w/o minor modification or perhaps turning the twilight sentinel all the way down. The '95 is a bit different. See where this is going guys? Try turning your twilight sentinel all the way down/off. And than once you start the car, turn the switch to just parking. It may do it that way. Or you could pull the DRL module. It really is not hard at all. I know the way listed above was how I could over ride my DRL's on my 02 DTS. Incorrect. Read above. Pulling the DRL resistor will NOT get you this function. Okay. Okay. So here is how you do it. It's simple. Albeit you lose the 'auto' headlight feature. I hinted at this above. The ambient light sensor is responsible for turning the DRL on and the auto low beam feature when 'dark'. To get this feature you simply disconnect the DRL resistor AND jumper the two ambient light sensor wires together. Jumping the ambient light sensor wires together makes the vehicle think it is ALWAYS light outside. Hence the reason to disable the DRL or it will be on at night as well until you turn your lows on. Now as I mentioned when you do this you will lose the auto low beam feature because the vehicle thinks it is always light outside. Now you have full control over your lighting. Hopefully most are smart enough to flip the MFS to low beam when it's dark. You can retain the DRL by using a relay and switch if one finds it necessary to have DRL such as Canadian residents. I relocated DRL to high beam(really easy too) and is on a 'digital' switch via CarPC if I want to have DRL on/off. So, yes in conclusion this can be done and it is simple! ;D
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Post by wireless on May 29, 2012 6:35:18 GMT -6
Maybe it's simple to an electrician such as yourself xD
I didn't know that would work o.O I wish I had an FSM lol
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 11:00:01 GMT -6
I'm cracking up at sall saying "hopefully most are smart enough to flip the MFS " now sall you know you gotta shed light on where the two ambient light wires are. And if course thanks bro
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 11:04:17 GMT -6
Simply pull the sensor and jump the two wires??
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Post by sall on May 29, 2012 11:21:48 GMT -6
Haha well... on a daily basis I question some people's intelligence. Not referring to here. Anyways.. the ambient light sensor is the one in the middle of the defrost grille on the dash. #2 on this diagram. The other grille/dash are for the Riviera. You can pop the grille off and snip the sensor leaving a bit of wire to solder later if want the function back and connect the two wires remaining in the dash in whatever method you choose. You can probably pop the sensor itself out and jump the connector with a wire. I didn't want a hole in the middle of dash with a wire sticking out though. Here is a pic of the sensor and wiring. You could probably tap the wires at the LCM or the main connector on the defrost grill too.
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 12:59:19 GMT -6
Thank You very much (in my Elvis presley voice)
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 13:24:24 GMT -6
This should be stickied for others that desire the same thing.
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Post by XJSman89 on May 29, 2012 16:45:25 GMT -6
Thanks to Sall, figures he would take something supposedly impossible and be like "nope, it's actually pretty simple. Here are your instructions." ;D
Stickied!
I am also assuming that since you are just snipping the correct wire, you could wire in a switch instead so that you can just disable the auto-headlights temporarily as a less permanent option?
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 17:36:32 GMT -6
You could. I will say it's a very tight space to work in. Took like 5mins to accomplish.
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Post by nelson480 on May 29, 2012 21:04:13 GMT -6
why wouldnt you want auto lights?
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 29, 2012 21:22:32 GMT -6
I wanna be able to ride with just the fogs and parking lamps on during dusk sometimes. That ambient light sensor prevents you from doing that by kicking the autolamps on. Personal choice. I could always hook up a switch.
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Post by aba1987 on May 29, 2012 22:32:09 GMT -6
why wouldnt you want auto lights? Lol cuz they're annoying. Why burn bulbs when you don't need to?
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Post by XJSman89 on May 29, 2012 23:29:20 GMT -6
I'm torn, myself. That's why I would want a switch. There are cases where I would have liked to run dark for a little bit and still be able to drive the car, but as soon as you switch it out of park you're out of luck. My XJ-S had manual lights and I liked it. Sara's Grand Cherokee has a dial where you can turn on the auto lights or turn them on manually and I like that the best... Hence why a switch would be perfect for me.
Like they said, just a matter of personal preference. Some people like the control, others like the convenience of having them come on for you. I enjoy both lol.
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Post by sall on May 30, 2012 5:38:27 GMT -6
why wouldnt you want auto lights? So that you have full control over your lighting system. Ability to turn everything on or off at your discretion and not be forced to have low beams on in low light situations where they are not warranted. Ever been to a drive thru movie ? A switch is doable, but I personally have no need for one, but would be easy to implement nonetheless(especially on the CarPC, still have a couple open relays).
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Post by renaldo0613 on May 30, 2012 10:27:10 GMT -6
Yeah, going to a drive in movie was a pain in the butt.
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Post by killroypete on Jan 28, 2013 2:43:28 GMT -6
For a second gen, pulling the Daylight relay will do it, but you will loose one headlight. (I guess it's a OEM trick to prevent the quick mod.) So...Modify the relay? I took the relay, cut the metal part that brings the voltage to the relay coil I soldered 2 wires from each end, That goes to another relay, it can be a lot smaller since it only controls the coil of the original relay. Now the tricky part, one wire of the new relay goes to ground, (no big deal) and the other goes to a switch, inside the cabin. -That is another subjet entirelly! I choose the smallest rocker switch I could find, installed it in the little pod besides the 4 way emergency flasher. The green LED are there to light the switch from behind, except it didn't work. The best reason to this mod is to signal the trucks in front of me they can change lane, I feel that just flashing the headlights can give the impression that I'm unhappy about their lane change. And I can drive around with just the fogs. (I mean the oversized white parking lights.)
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Post by Paulaurora on Jan 28, 2013 8:54:00 GMT -6
on 2g you can do that if you put head lamps to off you will get msg on dic saying headlamps suggested but you can drive like that with DRL and Fog lights on unless you put rear fog lights on than headlights comes on.
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Post by nelson480 on Jan 29, 2013 20:59:30 GMT -6
For a second gen, pulling the Daylight relay will do it, but you will loose one headlight. (I guess it's a OEM trick to prevent the quick mod.) So...Modify the relay? I took the relay, cut the metal part that brings the voltage to the relay coil I soldered 2 wires from each end, That goes to another relay, it can be a lot smaller since it only controls the coil of the original relay. Now the tricky part, one wire of the new relay goes to ground, (no big deal) and the other goes to a switch, inside the cabin. -That is another subjet entirelly! I choose the smallest rocker switch I could find, installed it in the little pod besides the 4 way emergency flasher. The green LED are there to light the switch from behind, except it didn't work. The best reason to this mod is to signal the trucks in front of me they can change lane, I feel that just flashing the headlights can give the impression that I'm unhappy about their lane change. And I can drive around with just the fogs. (I mean the oversized white parking lights.) What exactly did you achieve in this? Default DRL hi beam is at half voltage, flash to pass is full voltage (Not an obvious difference in day time)
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Post by renaldo0613 on Jan 29, 2013 21:11:17 GMT -6
It makes the 2nd generation to have the ability to ride during the day with just fog lamps. Rather than having your drl and fogs on the same time during sunlight, with this mod you can disable the drl. Atleast thats what i got from it.
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Post by nelson480 on Jan 29, 2013 21:14:09 GMT -6
Hmm, I'll check that out tomorrow
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Post by randnon on Nov 13, 2014 9:11:55 GMT -6
I am thinking of adding DRL to my 95 with the aftermarket module powering the fog lights. Is this possible? Rich
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