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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 11, 2015 19:20:01 GMT -6
Hey everyone, I've never really given any attention to it, but for as long as I can remember the front right turn signal light is always on during the day/night. I notice its reflection whenever I pull up behind a car that, while none of my other lights are on (during the day), the orange light on the far outside of the headlight assembly is lit. I just tested it at night in my parking garage and it came on immediately as the car started. I initially thought that the turn signal bulbs acted as DRLs, and that my front left was just burnt out, but after reading the manual I found out that the high beams actually act as DRLs with reduced brightness. So... why is it on all the time? All four turn signals work flawlessly as well as the hazard lights, but whenever I turn off the right turn signal, the orange light remains lit. I located a thread here that had a similar issue: aurorah.proboards.com/thread/23114However, this user also noted that the turn signal doesn't blink, which mine does fine. Anyone have any ideas regarding why this would happen? Thanks, Dan |
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 12, 2015 10:33:25 GMT -6
Turn off your head lights and fog lights and see if it still lit. Maybe the bulb is wrong its only be on at night or if you manual turn the DRL or lights on from the switch. or short in a head light.
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 12, 2015 10:49:47 GMT -6
Turn off your head lights and fog lights and see if it still lit. Maybe the bulb is wrong its only be on at night or if you manual turn the DRL or lights on from the switch. or short in a head light. I'll try doing this when I get home today. One thing I don't understand is why should that bulb be on ever (unless signaling), like you said at night or when you turn the DRLs on? I thought the DRLs were the high beams at reduced brightness, not the turn signal bulbs. Am I missing something here? |
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 12, 2015 14:14:51 GMT -6
The car put DRL Automatic (when in its in D R etc) even if everything is off so during the day if u keep it on AUTO or on off the side lights should not light up. When u turn DRL manually both sides should light up if they have correct bulbs in them. Drls are high beams but when u force to turn them on it will turn on side markers as well. Those are dual bulbs so they will be on during the night when low beams are on with AUTO function or when u force to be on. And they are turning bulbs as well same concept as brake lights they on during the night and same lights used for braking.
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 12, 2015 15:43:08 GMT -6
Hmm okay I see, I always have the lights set to automatic. When I tested it last NIGHT with my roommate going through all the gears, the bulb stayed on indefinitely, even in park. However, the other NEVER lit up except when he flipped on the turn signals and hazards. So if the signal works fine but it doesn't light up at night when it should, would that mean it's an issue not with the bulb? Maybe some kind of short or wiring issue? Thanks for your help so far by the way
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 12, 2015 17:01:50 GMT -6
Check the bulbs make sure they are same. when u in park your DRL should be off and during day time the side markers should be off.
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Post by tigger on Feb 13, 2015 21:21:12 GMT -6
Does that side flash when you lock or unlock with the fob?
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 13, 2015 21:30:56 GMT -6
Does that side flash when you lock or unlock with the fob? Unfortunately I haven't had a FOB for my rora for over 3 years. Just stopped working and I wouldn't know where I put away all that time ago. I just unlock with my key. I have noticed however the bulb does NOT light up during the day which is a good sign (since it shouldn't). I'll look at the bulbs soon and confirm that they're the same. |
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Post by tigger on Feb 13, 2015 23:58:11 GMT -6
...for as long as I can remember the front right turn signal light is always on during the day/night. I notice its reflection whenever I pull up behind a car that, while none of my other lights are on (during the day), the orange light on the far outside of the headlight assembly is lit. ...I have noticed however the bulb does NOT light up during the day which is a good sign (since it shouldn't). I'll look at the bulbs soon and confirm that they're the same. Confused. |
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 14, 2015 0:44:50 GMT -6
Sorry, the second part of my last post was referring to paulaurora's last post in asking me to make sure the bulbs are the same. I confirmed today that neither bulbs light up during the day (except of course for signaling), where I initially thought that one did. This is good news since neither should be on during the day anyway because they're not the DRLs. The front right does continue to stay lit at night in ALL gears, while the left only illuminates when signaling. As for anything else you're referring to, yes I'm confused too haha that's why I'm hoping for some input from members here
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Post by tigger on Feb 14, 2015 1:38:32 GMT -6
 OK, starting to wrap my little mind around this, lol! Pretty sure ambers(in the headlight assembly) come on with headlights. Sounds like your problem is with the bulb that isn't on when the headlights are. I'll check the wiring diagrams this weekend and do some testing in the garage on my '01 and let you know what I find.
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 14, 2015 8:25:16 GMT -6
Sounds to me like bad/wrong bulb on the right side then if it doesn't light up during night
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Post by sall on Feb 14, 2015 9:38:27 GMT -6
The park(dim) filament is either burned out on driver side, incorrect bulb or socket problem.
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 14, 2015 9:55:04 GMT -6
OK, starting to wrap my little mind around this, lol! Pretty sure ambers(in the headlight assembly) come on with headlights. Sounds like your problem is with the bulb that isn't on when the headlights are. I'll check the wiring diagrams this weekend and do some testing in the garage on my '01 and let you know what I find. Wow, thanks a ton for doing so much work to help me out, everyone. This forum really is awesome. Sounds to me like bad/wrong bulb on the right side then if it doesn't light up during night Yeah I'll give it a look when I have a minute today and check that out. The thing is I don't believe that those bulbs have been replaced or touched for the entirety of the car's life (15 years) so it would be odd that the bulbs are wrong. The park(dim) filament is either burned out on driver side, incorrect bulb or socket problem. Yeah at this point I'm thinking it's a socket problem since the filament isn't burned out (it lights up when signaling just fine) and I'm pretty sure the bulbs are the same. I'll give everyone an update on the bulbs hopefully today. |
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Post by sall on Feb 14, 2015 10:13:55 GMT -6
The park(dim) filament is either burned out on driver side, incorrect bulb or socket problem. Yeah at this point I'm thinking it's a socket problem since the filament isn't burned out (it lights up when signaling just fine) and I'm pretty sure the bulbs are the same. I'll give everyone an update on the bulbs hopefully today. There are two filaments in the bulb. One for park and one for turn. Park is dim and turn is bright. Easiest thing to do is switch bulbs from one side to the other and see if the problem switches side. If it does it is the bulb. If not it's in the socket or wiring. You should be able to take it and look at just like any bulb as well to see if it has broken filament. |
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 14, 2015 13:32:44 GMT -6
Yeah at this point I'm thinking it's a socket problem since the filament isn't burned out (it lights up when signaling just fine) and I'm pretty sure the bulbs are the same. I'll give everyone an update on the bulbs hopefully today. There are two filaments in the bulb. One for park and one for turn. Park is dim and turn is bright. Easiest thing to do is switch bulbs from one side to the other and see if the problem switches side. If it does it is the bulb. If not it's in the socket or wiring. You should be able to take it and look at just like any bulb as well to see if it has broken filament. Ohhh that makes a ton of sense. I didn't know there were two separate filaments. Yeah I guarantee it's the bulbs then but will double check as soon as I can. |
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 17, 2015 16:35:46 GMT -6
Update: I was able to check the bulbs today since the temperature wasn't in the negatives for once and I confirmed that the front left's uppermost filament is broken. I've ordered a new pair of Silverstar LLs so this should all be fixed soon.
Thanks a ton for the help everyone!
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 17, 2015 16:39:21 GMT -6
Cool!
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Post by tigger on Feb 18, 2015 0:47:01 GMT -6
Good work! I think both of mine are original to the car, lol!
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Post by Dan Wogan on Feb 22, 2015 14:51:59 GMT -6
Hey everyone, just a quick update. I replaced the bad bulb and everything's running great. Bad bulb (broken filament):  Before:  After:  Also replaced the high beams with some white LED bulbs in the second picture. Much whiter, omni-directional output but basically useless as brights. I really only bought them for the looks haha Thanks again for the help, everyone! |
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 23, 2015 13:08:40 GMT -6
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Post by tim1993 on May 17, 2015 22:08:13 GMT -6
I think i just figured out my issue with my 99 Aurora thanks to you guys.
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OK, starting to wrap my little mind around this, lol!
