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Post by SupaStealth on Jul 29, 2004 21:57:11 GMT -6
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Post by JimW on Jul 29, 2004 21:59:58 GMT -6
Not really a proven piece of equipment. I suggest the intake from RSM racing. They take the time to study the proper bend angle etc. Probably your best bet. Try to remember, performance doesnt come cheap. Check out www.rsmracing.com |
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Post by SupaStealth on Jul 29, 2004 22:02:19 GMT -6
very true, although i am currently strapped for funds, but yes, i'm planning on purchasing the CAI and Throttle Body from RSM Racing.
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Post by JimW on Jul 29, 2004 22:05:10 GMT -6
So am I...however, I've been waiting for a core TB for then to bore out. Apparently the 80mm TB is not a hot item. I wait patiently  The intake however, I do have (not installed yet) |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 1, 2004 11:20:06 GMT -6
Well, i just decided to order it, it'll add some sound to the car until i get the exhaust done and a high quality intake
Heh, this is the first week i've owned this car and i've already ordered more than a few upgrades for it... I'm so addicted, lol
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Post by Aurora40 on Aug 1, 2004 12:31:09 GMT -6
I have to say, I'm very skeptical of open cone intakes. For one, they pull air right out of the engine bay, which is very hot. For another, most of them are too small. This one on ebay mentions having a 3" pipe. 3" is not very big. The stock intake ducting is 4" or larger. You can see in that picture that there's an adaptor to get it to fit up to the MAF.
The RSM one also uses a 3" pipe. My stock airbox pulls air from behind the front headlight, away from engine heat. It also is about 3.5-4" large all over. I can't see an open cone and a 3" pipe improving on this. I could see a cone and a 4" pipe, with the proper heatshielding around the cone helping.
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Post by JimW on Aug 1, 2004 15:41:42 GMT -6
The explanation I got from RSM was that the intake pipe/K&N cone is beneficial because of the volume of air that the valves require.
They explained that the need for capacity (volume) of air is greater then the density of air (temperature). Providing smooth laminar flow of air is better then the possibility of turbulent air thru the stock intake tubing. When talking about heat shields, they told me that it drastically cuts down on the volume of air but does receive cooler air. Again Volume vs Density.
I do agree however that proper insulating of the pipe could be beneficial
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 1, 2004 16:48:59 GMT -6
Yeah, i think when i get it i'm going to make a heat shield for it because i have noticed that the engine bay gets quite a bit hotter than my past car, probably because things are a little more compacted in this one with the big V8 and all  |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 5, 2004 16:52:40 GMT -6
well, i just got my short ram intake, it looks pretty nice, comes with a good cone filter, not k&n, but none the less, nice. i installed it in about 10-15 minutes (I had to modify the rubber gromit that they include for placing the AIT sensor in)
It looks pretty nice and really lets ya hear the engine. i can't really tell if i gained any HP, but ya know, 3-7hp, is hard to feel in a 250hp motor. it says i should get up to 15hp, but i highly doubt that. but i bet if i open the exhaust up a little more, it'll go hand in hand with some gain in hp and fuel economy.
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Post by JimW on Aug 5, 2004 17:08:41 GMT -6
Thats cool...you might need a decent exhaust mod to help, the volume of air that enters the intake via the TB is helping but without a decent performance exhaust its not being used to its benefits.
Its a great start however, now you need an 80mm TB and cat back exhaust!
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 6, 2004 17:57:00 GMT -6
yeah, i think i'll definitely be getting that 80mm throttle body. with that though, will i have to get a different rubber adapter to fit the pipe on the throttle body?
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Post by JimW on Aug 6, 2004 18:52:15 GMT -6
Possibly, you may want to contact RSM directly, telling them you have a short RAM intake and you wish to know if the 80mm TB will fit the adaptor you have in your car now.
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Post by Aurora40 on Aug 6, 2004 18:55:48 GMT -6
yeah, i think i'll definitely be getting that 80mm throttle body. with that though, will i have to get a different rubber adapter to fit the pipe on the throttle body? You shouldn't. As long as you get a bored Aurora/N* TB, it'll be fine. The outer dimension doesn't change. But anyway, on the classic, doesn't that air pipe attach to the MAF, not the TB? |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 6, 2004 19:00:10 GMT -6
Hmm, i guess it would huh, i totally forgot about that MAF.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 25, 2004 12:34:32 GMT -6
let's see, i think two days ago i built myself a nice little 3-sided airbox for my cone filter system to cover the top, back and engine side. for right now i built it out of cardboard, i know it sounds cheap, but i figure cardboard has good insulation properties, after i do the finalized product it will be painted a silver metalic like the exterior of my car, i think i might make it out of fiber glass, two layers with an air gap in between the layers for some extra insulation. lol, probably a bit overboard, but oh well, i'm a perfectionest ;D.
even through my temp set-up, i can already tell a difference after an hour drive that i still have power like i would right at start-up and some extra little pep on cold nights.
by only covering the top, side and back, it still allows tons of air via 2, i think maybe even 3 very nice sized holes in the inner fender and behind the headlight.
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Post by erw38 on Aug 25, 2004 17:34:46 GMT -6
Damn, now I want one ;d |
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Post by R4D30N on Aug 25, 2004 22:41:42 GMT -6
you can get a metal reflectiv sheild at advance for 13$
I eventually want to get some stuff you use to vent the dryer, and run that to a cool spot on the motor.. i may even try putting a small fan blowing in to see what happens
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Post by JimW on Aug 26, 2004 6:44:55 GMT -6
LOL...ghetto dryer duct...hehehe, I love that stuff. It might be hard to route the ducting tho, esp if your lower air deflector is still on, the whole area is pretty sealed off. I'd like to see your plans once its completed.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 26, 2004 10:32:08 GMT -6
well, when i go off to school next week i'll check with some of my buddies down there, i'm sure at least one of them has a digital camera, then i'll post pictures of my exhaust, intake and sound system, damn, that means i'll have to use a scissors jack to lift the back end, lol, maybe i'll find a camera my mom is getting ready to develop and take a picture here while i have the hydrolic jack  ;D |
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Post by R4D30N on Sept 7, 2004 13:46:28 GMT -6
LOL...ghetto dryer duct...hehehe, I love that stuff. It might be hard to route the ducting tho, esp if your lower air deflector is still on, the whole area is pretty sealed off. I'd like to see your plans once its completed. if i take it apart and it looks bad, i can always put it back together, but i think ill be doing some cutting and drilling  |
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Post by SupaStealth on Sept 8, 2004 8:03:48 GMT -6
Woohoo, now i finally got some pictures taken ;D  |
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Post by JimW on Sept 8, 2004 9:19:09 GMT -6
heh...no coolant line to the rad in your car either eh?
Otherwise that intake looks really nice and clean.!
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Post by SupaStealth on Sept 8, 2004 13:15:06 GMT -6
;D Thanks to about 4 hours of cleaning my car with a combonation of first using windex with amonia and on all the rubber and plastic, that eagle one tire shine, it looks very nice, maybe today i'll take some more pictures in a higher resolution.
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;D