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Post by tedhontz on Aug 4, 2004 22:40:35 GMT -6
Jim, I am NOT wanting my aurora to sound like a mustang. Not at all. In MY opinion, my stock aurora sounds more gurgly than a modified exhaust mustang, but its gurgly and too quiet. I JUST want to make it louder, hopefully with JUST upgrading mufflers. I dont want to mess with the cat on it or anything like that. Its impossible to get this car to sound anything like a mustang. its already more rumblier stock. can i get the aurora louder? Yes. Smooth sound? Yes. But it will be very different sound and i know that and accept that . Besides, im bored with the mustang sound for awhile, thats one of the MANY reasons i got an aurora!
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Post by erw38 on Aug 4, 2004 22:45:01 GMT -6
Ding Ding Ding............Round 2.
Keep it clean guys.
Thanx
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 4, 2004 23:00:38 GMT -6
Clean as a whistle! No cussing here! No name calling! But, are whistles really that clean? Think about it! Its all in fun to make little jokes, but i take offense to offensive smarta#@ remarks and have to defend myself. Its completely understandable!  |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 5, 2004 6:35:35 GMT -6
Well, i'm sorry if i was offending you and your mustangs, but i was not talking about the mustangs when i was saying i do not want my car to sound like crap, i'm not sure how ya picked that up cause in that reply i did not use the word mustang at all, but i was simply saying that if there is no restriction at all it will do that and sound like crap, cause i know my lumina did. i do not use exclamation points, i am a laid back guy and i don't come to these forums to offend anyone, thank you for letting me know i offended you, next time i type i will try and make sure that the wording i used is clear and wont offend anyone...
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 5, 2004 9:40:15 GMT -6
no problem. i figure since you where replying to my original quote and i was talking about the mustang, i automatically figured you where replying to that. Luminas, Berettas, Grand Pricks, and Some Grand Ams all sounded TERRIBLE in the early 90's. They almost sounded like someone shot bullets through the headers. So i could only imagine the sound of a lumina with a modified exhaust! And YES, i love using exclamation points and CaPiTiLiZaTiOn. It was never designed to offend anyone. An exclamation point is used to further express a sentence while capitalizing a word is used to put further emphasis on expressing that word to the reading audience. I probably put exclamation points on the reply out of HABIT, but I think everyone should try some now and then. Now we both stand corrected in this matter and will move on. I think this is a GREAT website! This is one of the reasons to KEEP this car! So, i look forward to reading reviews, getting help, and helping out others the best to my ability. Im still extremely new at this car. The mustang i could fix in my sleep. But i am learning fast and hope to help out other the best i can.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 5, 2004 16:59:38 GMT -6
Well, i decided to give a good friend of mine a call today on the subject. He's goina help me out, i'm thinkin' i really don't want to run the pipes right off the headers for true dual exhaust, maybe i'll just install a 2.5 inch all the way back, at least for now. I'm running out of time that i can do this as well as money that i'm able to spend before i head back to Milwaukee for college.
I think one of the things i'm going to do is redo the so called Y-Pipe, it seams to me that its more a "T" than a "Y". so i'll smooth that out a bit. i think i'm goina take off the resonator, unless thats a really bad idea, please let me know. and i'm still undecided on the type of muffler, i hear people say that flowmaster is really good and the same about magnaflow. as of right now i'm leaning towards the flowmaster because the cost is a bit less.
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Post by JimW on Aug 5, 2004 17:09:25 GMT -6
Nothing wrong with Flowmaster at all.
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Post by Aurora40 on Aug 5, 2004 20:44:13 GMT -6
Hey now Supa. I've owned 9 mustangs and NEVER has one ever backfired. Though, the 4.6L in the later years, yes they can. BUT, GM's wonderful camaros backfire all the time. Its because they have a cheap exhaust using only one muffler instead of two. NOt true dual exhaust, like the BETTER mustang. Im glad they stopped making those pieces of junk. And now, yes i like the aurora. Mustangs perform better, sound better, and come with a manual shift. The aurora with a V8 is very slow. My brothers CAMRY will kill this car. 0-60 aurora specs are 8 seconds! Plus the aurora is hard to work on, unlike mustang. Its hard to get parts for, unlike mustang. Parts cost ten times more for less quality parts than mustang. Mustangs have hundreds of aftermarket performance parts compared to almost nothing available for aurora. And to sum it all Aurora, you figure with the mass problems with this EXPENSIVE engine, you could at least rebuild the thing. BUT, the wonderful folks at GM put THROW AWAY HEADS on this SUPPOSED to be good EXPENSIVE engine therefore making it non-rebuildable. Another great idea from the General Morons! So, the only reason why i have this car is because even though the mustang kills the aurora in performance, sound, and RELIABILITY, the mustang looks like an escort inside because it was half the price of an aurora and its not a four door. SO, growing up now i have to sacrifice the performance and reliability for the betterhandling and four doors the aurora has making it more practical. But, another mustang is definately in my future for a weekend car. SO, you better get your facts straight before you blab on topics you dont know about. Everyone knows mustangs exhausts are better designed, and NO the offroad h-pipe, made by over 10 performance companies will not cause it to backfire! Wow, did you post to the wrong forum by mistake? Why are you going off on Mustangs and Camaros? And what does Mustang vs. Aurora in performance have to do with anything? What are you basing the throw-away heads on, or that the motor is junk? You really lost me with this post. I guess I wasn't keeping an eye on left field. |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 5, 2004 21:09:52 GMT -6
;D
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 5, 2004 21:41:52 GMT -6
Aurora40, yes you did come in this post way too late. If you look at page 2 before you reply, then you'd know how all this got started. I was simply replying to whether or not to take off the resonator. Everyone's sound preference is different. I wrote the following on page 2:
you have to remember now, that im used to owning Mustang 5.0 cars. I've owned 9 of them all in the years between 1986 and 1991 all with the 5.0 engine and what i consider the TRUE true dual exhaust. I've had off-road H-Pipes on all but 2 of them with different exhausts on most of them. SO, if taking the resonator off will make it rumble more, thats fine with me. BUT, keep in mind this is my wife's car most of the time, so i dont want to spend alot.
NOW, i received a reply which i took offense to being a Mustang fan with alot of knowledge on Mustangs and being on the board on the Indiana Mustang Convention. BUT, this has all been cleared up, no hard feelings. Just don't like Mustangs being compared to CRAP and they don't backfire, that is the Camaro due to their poor NON true exhaust design. THAT is where the CAMARO came into the picture. COMPARISON ONLY!
In this world i believe that it is possible to actually like TWO cars. In this case, Mustang and Aurora. If i didn't like the Aurora, i wouldn't be on this website.
As for the non-rebuildable engines, i have read MULTIPLE times on automotiveforum, which has over 9000 posts on the aurora, that owners posting are FURIOUS that this engine being expensive as it is, comes with non-rebuildable THROW AWAY heads making this engine non-rebuildable. I do NOT know this for a fact, but MANY posts have backed this up. If it was a mustang we were talking about, i would know. BUt im new at this car, which is part of the reason im on here.
AND, i think some has misunderstood. I have simply said that if taking off the resonator makes it louder on the inside of the aurora i am all for that. You all took it that i immediately wanted it to sound like a MUSTANG. NO! I have NEVER even thought about taking off the cat or running straight pipes of any kind. IN FACT, i have posted more than once that im only interested in just changing the mufflers only, if thats possible.
So, this has been blown WAY out of proportion and i'm getting tired of defending myself. The misunderstand between SupaStealth and I is patched up. SO please lets not start again!
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Post by Gerry on Aug 5, 2004 22:27:30 GMT -6
This is the first I've heard about a non-rebuildable engine. Are we talking about the regular engine that comes with the Aurora or the Northstar engine?
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Post by erw38 on Aug 5, 2004 22:34:58 GMT -6
Ted,
First of all I think you might be getting a little to heated with this exhaust thing. I hate to say tell you this, but please calm down. And for my sake (can't speak for other's here) please only use capitalization at the beginning of sentances(sp?). I dont know about others but it is different, to say the least, to see a whole word capitalized it the middle of a sentance(sp?).
Thank You,
Elan
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Post by dred98 on Aug 6, 2004 21:04:28 GMT -6
This is the first I've heard about a non-rebuildable engine. Are we talking about the regular engine that comes with the Aurora or the Northstar engine? Hi Gerry - the regular V8 engine in the Aurora is a Northstar engine - it's the same as the Cadillac Northstar engine in the STS etc, only it's 4 litre instead. |
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Post by dred98 on Aug 6, 2004 21:17:55 GMT -6
This is just my 2 cents on the problems we've run into lately, on this thread and others.
Most people on this forum own, drive and love Auroras and they don't want people spending time and space talking about how some other car is cheaper to repair, or faster, or louder, or anything else. They just want to talk about Auroras - so let's keep the discussions about the car that's the reason we all joined the forum for, the Aurora.
Please, nobody shout at me for this, and please stop shouting at each other.
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Post by erw38 on Aug 6, 2004 23:02:30 GMT -6
Good Job Howard! I, for one, agree with you.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 8, 2004 14:26:19 GMT -6
Woohoo!, well, today i just bought 13 feet of 2.5" exhaust tubing ( i got a bit extra just incase). since i am working 11pm to 7am at my work for the next two weeks, i'll have to find some time to do this, it'll most likely be done by this weekend. i already have the pipes marked at where they should be bent and cut, so it shouldn't be too bad, i just have to cut off the hangers and install them on my pipes. ;D I decided to go with Dynamax Turbo mufflers and one single 2.5" pipe goin' through the center starting after the cat. I'm not going to run the resonator (as of right now anyways.) if i decide it's too loud i'll put it back in. i have the pipes marked and are ready to be bent. i'm still designing the Y-pipe that seperates the single pipe into two. i don't have a pipe bender so i'll be using a torch and a vise, hehe. the things i'm still trying to decide is if i want to replace the stock tips ( i would have to enlarge the holes to accomadate them though) otherwise i'll have to save up and get some nice chrome dual tips to put on each of the pipes. although i've never had good luck with chrome here because of all the salt that is used on the roads in the winter. well, thats all for now, i wish i had a digital camara so i could post some progress pictures  *Edit*- oh yeah, i forgot to mention that for the 13' of pipe and the two muffler's were a grand total of $136 |
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Post by JimW on Aug 8, 2004 16:48:53 GMT -6
One of our members (doesnt post often) has Dynomax Turbos and seems to like em Dont get chrome tips, go stainless steel...I have round quads from Ractive and it sets the back end of the car off nicely. |
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Post by erw38 on Aug 8, 2004 19:32:59 GMT -6
Walmart has some tips for like 10 bucks
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 9, 2004 0:07:32 GMT -6
supastealth, my brother used to work for dynomax as an assistant plant manager. WHile the dynomax aren't quite as loud as flowmasters, their competition, they are of pretty good quality. Where did you get your mufflers from? I used to get them for dealer cost but not anymore. NAPA has a complete dynomax catalog with all the models available. They used to make a model called, i think, CVX mufflers. They were a little more high performance. I know they made them for my old car, won't say what car it was because i guess if you mention ANY other car on here, even for comparison, it becomes offensive, but it started with an M. Well good luck on the mufflers. Let me know if you're happy with the results.
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Post by scottydl on Aug 9, 2004 4:04:21 GMT -6
Walmart has some tips for like 10 bucks Are those polished stainless, or actual chrome? The ends of my chrome ones I had on my old Buick rusted up in a matter of months, but the stainless pair on my '69 Exec are still looking pretty good after several years. I'd like to see pics of any aftermarket tips on Auroras if anyone has 'em... that's an easy mod that I'd like to do!  |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 9, 2004 7:52:39 GMT -6
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Post by omegaic on Aug 9, 2004 10:13:48 GMT -6
They're nice and shiney, do those things normally cost $50.00? I guess that much stainless is expensive.
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Post by dred98 on Aug 9, 2004 10:28:53 GMT -6
Chrome definitely comes in different qualities - with pricing to match.
I had a GTO with a big rear chrome bumper - after 8 years there was no sign of rust. Some idiot rear ended me, and the replacement bumper ("it's as good as original equipment") went rusty in less than a month.
I couldn't do much because it was the idiot's cheap insurance company who paid and I'd already signed to say the repair was OK.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 9, 2004 14:55:29 GMT -6
hmm, the project might possibly take a bit longer than expected. i tried to see how tough it was to bend that pipe with my torch using mapp gas and a vise. needless to say i didn't get very far. so right now i'm going to design myself a pipe bender with my 3 ton hydrolic jack as a center piece, hopefully i'll be able to find a bender i can use by this weekend if this thing doesn't turn out, cause the exhaust shop said they'd charge me a couple hundred bucks just to bend the pipes and make the Y-pipe.  |
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 9, 2004 15:03:10 GMT -6
ouch, $200? Just a thought, might or might not be worth looking into. But some welding shops will bend pipes. My father-in-law is a welder and he's into stuff like that. Some may do it and some may do it on the side. It may be worth a call if you can't do it yourself.
erw38, regarding the $10 walmart tips. THey'd be okay depending on where you live. Dry hot locations they may last. But here in Indiana they rusted on a car i had after only a week in the rain.
You may try Autozone or Advance Autoparts. They get into the aftermarket stuff more than they used to.
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Post by erw38 on Aug 9, 2004 19:39:16 GMT -6
for 10 bucks what would you expect? Would a product like rustoleum work? I think thats a rust inhibitor or such.
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I don't know anything about exhaust or anything. Just trying to share my worthless knowledge. ;D
Good Luck
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Post by tedhontz on Aug 9, 2004 20:56:26 GMT -6
rust-o-leum makes a product in a spray can that is CLEAR in color. I have used it on my "fords" before since i admit they don't have a long lasting body compared to the aurora. This product, once sprayed on the rust, stopped the rust from spreading. It costs about $3 a can and i got it at meijers. It may work or may not. I've never used on exhaust tips. Good luck.
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 19, 2004 10:51:39 GMT -6
well, i decided to chop off my mufflers the other day so i could here what my baby sounded like, all that i can say is wow, it sounds so beautiful ;D, but i'm hopin' to get it in to a shop to get my new pipes bent and mufflers put onbefore the end of the weekend. but for now, it sounds like a civilized race car, lol  . And you bet, i get some interesting looks from people when they hear the sound comin' outa my car ;D. |
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Post by SupaStealth on Aug 25, 2004 10:38:11 GMT -6
Hey everyone, i just thought i'd let ya know that i brought my car into the muffler shop today, i'm hopin' he gets it done before i have to go to work in few hours.
i stopped in after a half hour and its comin' along nicely. he said that y-pipe might be a little pain, but it should be fricken awesome when its done, i'll have to find some way to get a sound clip when she's done ;D
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Post by Aurora40 on Aug 25, 2004 11:03:31 GMT -6
i'll have to find some way to get a sound clip when she's done ;D You can always just crib mine and tell people it's your car...    |
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. And you bet, i get some interesting looks from people when they hear the sound comin' outa my car ;D.
