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Post by Buddiemac on Jan 2, 2007 9:42:10 GMT -6
I would like to see the audio, Electrical and lighting section divided into two forums as the mechanical forums are divided.
Having a classic and second generation forums. I believe this would make topics more focus for trouble shooting, replacing electrical components, part numbers and for discussions on known electrical problems.
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Post by scottydl on Jan 2, 2007 9:46:49 GMT -6
Hmm, interesting idea. Only problem is that many electrical "problems" such as changing headlight bulbs, speakers, etc. would not be different between the models and we would create an unnecessary division. That's why we recently RE-combined the 3.5L and 4.0L 2nd-gen forums... there weren't enough topics unique to each model and there ended up being lots of duplication in the two forums. Those are just my thoughts at the moment, but we can certainly see what some other members think.
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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 2, 2007 10:30:58 GMT -6
Well, in my opinion, if you have some problem specific to a 1st gen or something, then just post in the 1st gen board. I always saw elec/audio/lighting as a board for aftermarket stuff more than for problems with OEM stuff.
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Post by Buddiemac on Jan 2, 2007 13:15:11 GMT -6
I can understand these other point of views also.
In my opinion there are large differences between the classic and 2nd generation in the electrical - they are completely difference cars. There are topics on replacement of fuses, relays and sometimes sensors. The location and part numbers vary between these two cars.
As for the 3.5L and 4.0L forums, these were the same car but different power plant hence much of the mechanical applied to both. Obviously if one was performing internal Engine work, there would be differences.
It just seems as an inconsistency, to have two forums for mechanical and one for electrical. Why then have two for mechanical?
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Post by BuccaneersFan on Jan 2, 2007 14:36:45 GMT -6
Why not cut "Electrical" from the heading and just make it "Audio and lighting." Leaving electrical problems to be addressed in either the classic or 2nd gen mechanical sections. ;D
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Post by mission008 on Jan 2, 2007 14:57:06 GMT -6
I kinda agree with BuddieMac...it certainly would eliminate any confusion in the future...only problem is....are there enough topics to bother with having 2 seperate titles for it
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Post by scottydl on Jan 2, 2007 16:14:58 GMT -6
I kinda agree with BuddieMac...it certainly would eliminate any confusion in the future...only problem is....are there enough topics to bother with having 2 seperate titles for it That is my exact concern. At this point I think the answer to mission008's question is "no". If/when that forum gets as much traffic as the Classic Maintenance forum for instance (over an entire page of new posts/replies in 2 busy days), it might be a different story. Removing the word "Electrical" from the title could be done too, although I would define "Audio" and "Lighting" to both fall under the more general "Electrical" category... Plus that was the original title of the area when ACNA was created, and its been expanded to include Audio & Lighting (as opposed to the other way around).
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Post by Buddiemac on Jan 2, 2007 18:47:49 GMT -6
Well, in my opinion, if you have some problem specific to a 1st gen or something, then just post in the 1st gen board. I always saw elec/audio/lighting as a board for aftermarket stuff more than for problems with OEM stuff. Now a days - the Mechanical and electrical are so tightly coupled that they need to be discussed together. Engine sensors, fuel system, brakes, traction control, suspension leveling, diagnostics for mechanical diag all have electrical counter-part. So suggestion by Auror40's quote makes sense. But even for bulb and fuse replacement - I do not agree with previous quotes that it is the same, independent of car model. Replaceing a bulb in the dash or outside the car varies totally from the two cars. But since this line of auto has been killed by GM and many of these Auroras will not be around too much longer it may be a mute point. It would be nice to have satistics on how the traffic on this forum has developed over the past few years.
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Post by algonquin on Jan 2, 2007 21:40:03 GMT -6
Unless traffic picks up considerably I would say leave it as is.
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Post by scottydl on Jan 2, 2007 23:01:08 GMT -6
It would be nice to have satistics on how the traffic on this forum has developed over the past few years. Unfortunately there are no official stats available from Proboards on board growth, BUT any of us vets can tell you that membership and traffic have increased considerably in the last year especially. The forum was established in April 2004 I believe, and when I joined in June 2004 there were 100-200 members IIRC and very few regular posters. In January 2006 (not quite a year ago) we hit 1000 members and as of this posting (less than a year later) we're at 1,770 with new people every day. Because of its internet hits & relevance, this site now comes up easily on Google and other search engines... it used to be non-existent or buried on page 6 or 7 of any search related to Auroras. It's all progress! ;D
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Post by premiumV on Jan 2, 2007 23:48:28 GMT -6
it used to be non-existent or buried on page 6 or 7 of any search related to Auroras. It's all progress! ;D FYI, the way I found this forum was from a post on a Yahoo thread that was redirecting someone over to here that had a problem. It might be different now but this forum never did come up for me with a Google search, mebby cause of the "h" in the address.
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Post by scottydl on Jan 3, 2007 11:07:41 GMT -6
Check out this thread for various account of how folks found ACNA. Several listed google, which never used to be the case. All the original members came over from the Oldsmobile Forums or by other personal referral.
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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 3, 2007 11:36:42 GMT -6
But even for bulb and fuse replacement - I do not agree with previous quotes that it is the same, independent of car model. I think what Scotty is picturing is more like "Silverstars have a crappy bulb life" as a discussion in lighting. While you are saying something like replacing a dash bulb, which in my opinion belongs in the Classic maintenance forum. Maybe renaming the classic and 2nd gen forums to remove the "mechanical maintenance" part and make it something more general like "Classic Aurora Maintenance, Repairs, and Troubleshooting" or something better than that.
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Post by mission008 on Jan 3, 2007 12:36:49 GMT -6
screw it...lets just make a topic for every little part of the car! haha jk
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Post by scottydl on Jan 3, 2007 13:10:54 GMT -6
While you are saying something like replacing a dash bulb, which in my opinion belongs in the Classic maintenance forum. A post like that could in either place as far as I'm concerned. No matter how we define the forums, there's often more than one area where a conversation could justifiably be placed. screw it...lets just make a topic for every little part of the car! haha jk There go you! I'll get started on creating the lugnut and rearview mirror forums. ;D ;D
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Post by mission008 on Jan 3, 2007 14:59:25 GMT -6
dont forget the exhaust gasket section too....thats the one im looking for!
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Post by Custom88 on Jan 5, 2007 12:41:50 GMT -6
Maybe renaming the classic and 2nd gen forums to remove the "mechanical maintenance" part and make it something more general like "Classic Aurora Maintenance, Repairs, and Troubleshooting" or something better than that. X2. Lets make the mechanical sections a little more general, and the electrical/lighting section more specific.
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Post by aaaauroraaaa on Jan 6, 2007 13:30:01 GMT -6
I have not read this whole thread... but if you want to see a busy and confusing forum, head over to www.caraudio.com/forum/ . There are over 350 members online at that forum right now, there administrators have post counts of over 25,000(not that it matters ) Keep the sections the same as much as you can. In the long run it is less confusing.
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Post by RapMastaC1 on Jan 22, 2007 0:43:46 GMT -6
Yeah, see, that is how I DON"T like it. I like fewer threads. You should see forums.macrumors.com/ forums, there are so many thread homes sitting around there, it's a freakin city. I like having fewer options to deal with when it comes to forums. I think it's fine the way it is!
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Post by luvmybravada on Jan 29, 2007 11:58:00 GMT -6
That Mac forum is crazy!!!! Way too many topics! I agree, K.I.S.S.
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