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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 18, 2006 9:28:49 GMT -6
Called local dealer, said closest to my size would be 225-55-17in the Hydroedge. He said it would be 1/2 inch shorter and 1/2 inch slimmer. $691 total. 80K mileage tire. What do you think Bob? Well I'd stick with the appropriate sized tires for my car. But I'm more conservative about that kind of stuff. Unless you really want the HydroEdges, I personally would look for a tire you liked similarly that fit the car. The 225/55-17 will fit up to an 8" wide rim, so that's ok. But the load rating is 95. The Aurora comes with 98-rated tires. This is a 132 lb per tire difference. It might not matter, but I personally wouldn't take that chance either. Lastly they are T speed rated, 118mph. I probably wouldn't care about that as my car is not gonna exceed that. With the 'vette, my drag racing days in the Aurora are at an end, not that it could even approach that speed at the track.
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Post by Aurora5000 on Jan 18, 2006 12:47:21 GMT -6
After reading info on load index, 2 sites said to NOT go lower than OEM.
Keep on looking.....thanks
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Post by Aurora5000 on Jan 19, 2006 9:44:40 GMT -6
Bob, I am now thinking about a Toyo Proxes TPT rated at 40K tire. $573 locally. Do you know much about this tire? I read one review from a guy who put them on his Aurora and said it was like a brand new car. www.1010tires.com/tirereviews/Toyo_Proxes_TPT_tire_reviews.htmlI've read reviews on the Goodyears, Brigs, and conti and they all seem to have tread or balancing problems.
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Post by Wacko on Jan 19, 2006 10:02:28 GMT -6
That is a good price. I don't know much about those tires other than Toyo's were OEM on my wife's RAV4 and I like 'em.
I couldn't help but notice this comment, though: "Dry Traction and Handling is almost too good! I can't even chirp them on my 1.8T Golf and I'm thinking of getting less stickier tires! Now if I had a BMW with a V6, I can only imagine how beautiful these tires would perform. Good warranty at 60k too. "
BMW doesn't make a V6. But hey, V6/I6; what's one letter between friends?
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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 19, 2006 13:14:01 GMT -6
I don't know anything about Toyo's. They sound fine in the description, though. Only small thing is they are directional, so no side-to-side rotations, just same-side rotation is possible.
I think a lot of tires might get a bad balancing rap due to shops, though. It's hard to say. As long as the shop will replace one that is out-of-round with another, you should be ok.
How much were the Dunlop SP Sport A2's? Or were you not interested in them?
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Post by stickking1 on Jan 19, 2006 20:46:55 GMT -6
I love my Sport A2's for my car. Got them from TireRack.com for $510, which included the 3-year Road Hazard coverage and shipping. They are a touch louder when driving than my Turanza LS-H, but are really great dry and wet, and pretty darn good in the snow. It's a nice-looking tire with an attractive sidewall and a nice aggressive tread design...the car really looks mean with them on, and drives that way too.
I just had my local Chevy dealer mount and force-balance them. The fella in charge of the service department has been really good to my brother and I with the many cars we've sent over to him...so I got all that for $50 bucks. Unless something changes, I'll be ordering another set when it's time to replace these. I am very happy with them.
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Post by stickking1 on Jan 19, 2006 21:00:14 GMT -6
It's a thing of beauty.
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Post by Aurora5000 on Jan 20, 2006 8:13:53 GMT -6
Bob, After reading all of the reviews on the toyo site, I have gathered certain facts and conclusions. 150 positive reviews- 7 very negative reviews. Complaints: 1- dead spot 1-cupping 5-out of round 7-bulges, bubbles, sidewall issues 10-noisy Observations: ALL tires manufactured will have a small amount of problems, just like anything else. Find a dealer that will take care of you if a problem arises. Find a dealer with a Hunter GSP 9700 road forced balance tire machine. Most everyone mentioned to some degree that this is not a great snow tire. Keep on looking..... Will look at Dunlops next and the Michelins again. More tire reviews for the Aurora. Copy and paste www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyCommentsMMY.jsp?autoMake=Oldsmobile&autoModel=Aurora+4.0L&autoYear=2002&autoModC lar=&commentStatus=P
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Post by flintoid on Jan 23, 2006 20:28:36 GMT -6
That is a good price. I don't know much about those tires other than Toyo's were OEM on my wife's RAV4 and I like 'em. I couldn't help but notice this comment, though: "Dry Traction and Handling is almost too good! I can't even chirp them on my 1.8T Golf and I'm thinking of getting less stickier tires! Now if I had a BMW with a V6, I can only imagine how beautiful these tires would perform. Good warranty at 60k too. " BMW doesn't make a V6. But hey, V6/I6; what's one letter between friends? This reminds me of the NAI Auto show where I was waiting in line to sit in a new 3-series, while the kid in front of me bragged about having doubled the horsepower in the V-8 in his Dad's M3. I looked at the Tirerack stuff and just couldn't figure out how to make sense of the ratings. They just seemed kind of arbitrary. At this point I would assume that if you're not afraid to pay for the extended service on the tires, then you can afford to save the time and take the plunge on just about anything with a good speed rating. Uh, right guys?
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Post by Aurora5000 on Jan 24, 2006 7:56:54 GMT -6
No one in OKC handles Dunlops, so that's out. Back to looking at Michelins or maybe Conti, but it will have to be with one of the big tires chains here in the city, with full replacement guarantee and the Hunter 9700 forced balance machine.
Still looking...
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Post by Aurora5000 on Jan 24, 2006 11:20:48 GMT -6
Well, finally I have made a decision. I'm going back to the OEM Michelins. It seems they have inproved in some of the categories they were weak in. Still get great wear. Not the best in snow but we don't get much here. One of the two major chains here in OKC have the Hunter 9700 road forced balancer so I will go with them. Tires are still in the $800 range out the door. Thanks for your help all.
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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 24, 2006 11:28:56 GMT -6
Sounds good. I don't think you can go wrong with the MXV4 Plusses. Mine seems to do ok in snow, but not so ok on ice. Thankfully we also don't get too much snow, though we do get ice a good bit.
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Post by BNICOV on Feb 22, 2006 15:50:32 GMT -6
I've been looking into rubber, my Michelins have just about had it, I was up in Bracebridge,ON on Monday and got stuck in a client's driveway, it took me 20 minutes to get out. I am leaning towards the Kumho Solus and the Toyo Proxes TPT. I have a buddy looking into pricing and we'll go from there. I'm not happy with the snow performance with the stock Michelins even when they had more tread on them. I don't want to shell out for snow tires.
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Post by Custom88 on Feb 22, 2006 20:59:56 GMT -6
My pirelli's are GREAT in snow even though they're a sport tire. They totally blow away the stock Goodyears my car had on it. it's atleast worth a look.
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Post by stevensolds on Feb 22, 2006 23:27:42 GMT -6
Dont forget Traction T/A BFG's. They are an excellent tire. A bit expensive, but worth it. You will sacrifice tread life for higher performance. But if you are worried about that, by all means go back to Goodyear Integrity's.
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Post by BNICOV on Feb 27, 2006 10:40:43 GMT -6
I'm going to look into Pirelli's but I've heard about mixed reviews. I'm going to see what the prices are and I'll go from there. Steven, BFG doesn't make the Traction T/A in my size (P235/55/17), actually, not too many manufacturers do. I don't want to mess with bigger tires as I'm not going to be bothered with picking up snow tires and rims. The car gets driven too much. One day I'll find a Shelby GT 500KR and play with that. (now I'm dreaming because bloody Barrett Jackson is pumping up the prices of these damn things like crazy, 20 years ago you could get one that was mint for 40 grand, now, try 250+)
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Post by BNICOV on Feb 28, 2006 11:15:57 GMT -6
I can get the TOYO Proxes TPT H-Rated, for $190 + GST = $203.30/tire + the install which'll run me about $50 or so, V-Rated is 10 bucks more a tire and I don't need that kind of performance . That's from a TOYO wholesaler. Eagle RS-A would be more as well as the Pirelli P6 (which was $243 wholesale.....that's nuts!!) Looks like I'm going to go with the TOYO. From what I've heard, they make a great tire and I'm ready for something new, I've had Michelin or Goodyear on my cars for over 10 years and to be honest, I was not crazy about any of those tires. Eagle LS, Michelin X-ONE (wore great, got almost 100k miles out of a set) and Michelin Harmony.
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Post by BNICOV on Mar 8, 2006 6:29:47 GMT -6
The TOYOs are ordered and I'm gonna put them on later on this afternoon. Time to do a burnout with the Michelin's (I've only burned rubber with the 'rora on a few occasions, with the Bonnieville.........quite a bit). I'll report back on these later. From a couple of tire guys I spoke to, they are a fantastic tire that outperforms the stock Michelins and the Goodyears.
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Post by BNICOV on Mar 13, 2006 16:37:06 GMT -6
I was finally able to make it down and get the TOYO's installed. So far, I can say this without equivocation, they are GRRREAATTT!! They ride really nice, they respond well to turning inputs from the steering wheel (in the city and on the highway). Also, they are great in the rain. On an onramp, I was able to crank the wheel over and go right into the turn, the stock Michelins would groan and start to slide. As of the past 25-30miles I put on them, I'd give them an A++ rating. We'll see later this week how they are if it snows at all.
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Post by BNICOV on Apr 18, 2006 16:59:41 GMT -6
An update on the TOYOs, they are a fantastic tire to say the least. The car handles much better and goes into corners a lot harder then with the stock Michelins which would start sliding out on a fast corner. These tires ride a bit harder but the rain and dry performance really make up for it. TWO THUMBS UP!!
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