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Post by GlennS87 on Jul 11, 2005 16:52:54 GMT -6
Just ordered a set 255/50/WR17's Kumho ASX. I wonder if the extra 20mm in tread width will even be noticeable. Tire rack callled me soon after the order was placed to confirm the size. They said they didn't have too many people with Aurora's order that size.
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Post by stevensolds on Jul 11, 2005 17:14:29 GMT -6
You have the stock 16" rims? I didnt even know I could fit 255's on mine. Someone on here did though. I would have gotten the ultra high performance tires, i forget what they were but they were $200 a tire.
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Post by JimW on Jul 11, 2005 17:18:13 GMT -6
One did They called me to confirm it would work..lol Then again you do have a 2nd gen. Here is a pic of my car with 255 booooooots! I had a better pic of just the tire up close, if I find it I will post it.
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Post by GlennS87 on Jul 11, 2005 17:26:23 GMT -6
You have the stock 16" rims? I didnt even know I could fit 255's on mine. Someone on here did though. I would have gotten the ultra high performance tires, i forget what they were but they were $200 a tire. I have the 17's since the car is a 4.0l. I went outside just after they called to look at the wheel wells again. Looks like their is plenty of room for them. The tire can supposedly mounted on as little as 7 in rims so I should be ok there. The price was like 112 a tire plus shipping. Still cheap compared to my Vette tires. Jim, Did you notice any difference in ride quality or handling?
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Post by JimW on Jul 11, 2005 20:18:03 GMT -6
Yes I did notice a better ride and handling, the wider footprint helps a lot, and the compound is softer then those horrible (yes! I hate em..the Micheline Energy MXV4s) tires.
255/50s also maintain a good side wall so ride comfort is not comprimised.
With the improved handling package on the 2nd Gen, you should feel a noticeable change in handling and ride.
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Post by Letitroll98 on Jul 11, 2005 22:39:22 GMT -6
You are just on the edge of fitment for 255 with the stock 2nd Gen 17" wheels. You will end up with a slightly smaller section width using these narrower rims as the tire is spec'd on 8" rims I believe. They will fit on the rims and in the wheel wells for sure, but you won't know how much the sidewall, and thus ride and handling, are compromised until you try them out on your wheels. In any case, if you are replacing the stock Michelin's with the super fine Kumho ASX ultra high performance all season you'll most likely have so much improvement that you wouldn't be able to tell if the tire would work better on wider rims anyway. And what the hey, if you do notice a little sloppiness at the limit, it's a reason to spring for those new wheels, eh?
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Post by GlennS87 on Jul 12, 2005 7:43:19 GMT -6
Letitroll98, I think you're right, the Michelins have 57k miles and are down to their wear strip indicators. I suspect any new performance tire would be an improvement. I typically don't take the Aurora to the limit as far as the twisties go. I have the Vette for that.
I'll say this for the Aurora, I have been in many luxury cars costing significantly more, but for high speed highway driving (80-90 mph) this car is easier to drive and much more confident than most.
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Post by joeslark on Jul 16, 2005 18:22:11 GMT -6
I just put a set of new Firestone afinity tires on my 2001 Aurora. 70 mile warrenty and $650.
I hate these tires. It is a very good thing there was a 30 day test drive. When i told them the problem. 1. they feel like you are riding on ballons. 2. all the weights are on the outside of the rim. 3. they keep loosing air.
They offered me a set of bridgstones potenza for $229 a peice. plus all the other charges and no milage warrenty.
I finally had her get me a set of the cooper life liners, these are what I had on the car to start. Let see how that goes I should have them this week.
Joe B.
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Post by joeslark on Jul 25, 2005 19:40:49 GMT -6
The cooper life liners are on and they are wonderful.
let's see if they last 50,000 miles.
and I got a refund for the reduction in cost of the tires.
Joe
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Post by nthums1 on Aug 6, 2005 13:16:53 GMT -6
Whoa folks, before you all get carried away with this plus ment stuff. This sort of thing is mostly for your run of the mill car.!!!! This car and its vintage, the Classic, already has a tremendous plus built in and going to far is BAD! 235 60R16. Your suspension will not be correct either if you follow all the rumors. Not only that, when you go with wider tires, they can extend out enough to stone pit the entire side of your Rora. Not nice. I'm glad you're seeing the 90% improvement with the Khumos. It is too bad you cheated yourself out of the other 30% of overall improvement by going so big. Even the autobahn used the same size, just different speed rating. Think of those running the autobahn. How many go out and over tire their Benz's Audi's or BMW's. Most likely you will see high speed tires but no tremendous increase in size. And too, I don't have the time, equipment, or any of the other necessities to re-engineer the suspension from the ground up.
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Post by GlennS87 on Aug 9, 2005 15:56:18 GMT -6
My Kumhos are on and they don't extend out over the wheel well at all. Letitrol is absolutely right in that this size 255/50/17 would be best suited on an eight inch rim but so far I have experienced an improvement in ride and I believe better handling (could be attributed to newer tires but I believe the Kumho ASX are superior to the stock MIchelins in any size). I also went to 33lbs of air pressure to make up for some of the potential sloppiness at the limit which I rarely go to anyway in this car. In any case the primary reason I made the change was for the aesthetics of the wider footprint. I thought the added width would look good and I am not disappointed. Now, if it was going to cost me more money to do this, I wouldn't have bothered, but I basically spent what I would have anyway on the stock tire size.
nthmus - The factory, in sizing out tires. rims etc.. (or any other component for that matter) makes numerous compromises based on the various goals they have set for the car such as ride quality, economy, COST, etc.. I think if an individual wants to change things to emphasize one objective over the other, that is their perogative. A lot of people change wheels/tire size for aesthetic reasons and I say it's their car they can do what they want to differentiate from any other car on the road. I do believe that some people believe that some of the mods they make on their cars accomplish more than they actually do but in the end who cares if it makes them happy.
As far as what Benz, Audi, BMW owners do, most I know bought their cars purely for the status of them and not for their ultimate performance value. Frankly, what this group does to mod their cars doesn't mean anything to me since a lot of them lease their cars and can't or won't mod them anyway.
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