Post by stevensolds on Feb 12, 2006 17:49:32 GMT -6
Supa that would be cool if you could make it! But man, it'd only be worth it for the 3-night stay. I guess you could stay 3 nights (they have cool differente events each day) and I would just run up saturday like last time (main show day) or something? You dont mind driving 12 hours though? I guess with premium sound and luxo-cruiser seats, cruising is like riding on a cloud.
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Post by stevensolds on Mar 1, 2006 12:05:20 GMT -6
Lol, i didnt see the last 2 responses. Since Bob isnt' coming, and Dan isnt sure yet I dont know. I'm not going alone so if Joe goes I'll definately be there, that would be fun to look at each other's cars since they have similar mods.
Also Mbowen Mapquest figures out times for trips at 55mph on the highway parts. If you figure it at 75mph average, it's a lot shorter
The fun part about owning nice cars is, yes, you got it. Clubs and road rally events. Ever see what the GTO clubs do? They bring 10 or so cars to carslisle each year. F-bodies even more. That isnt much in my opinion but its still a lot of fun. Plus you get to take all those cars out onto the highway and blast in behind people, pass people and tease..you know how it works. I guess with Aurora's I shouldnt be looking for that heh.
I don't exactly understand the arrangements at Carlisle. Can someone who has been there before explain it again? My wife and I will be there in June with #375/500.
As far as the arrangements, I don't think I want to seriously "show" my car, so I don't pay the $25 show fee, right? Do I reserve a space on some kind of infield? Would that be with other Auroraphiles? Would we need to coordinate as ACNA in order to park together? Or do we just randomly park in a big lot, buy a ticket to enter, and walk through to see other people's show cars?
Or, do I pay the $25 "show car" fee in order to get a place on the inside along with other Auroras? Although I'm not seriously going to "show" my car, if that's how I have to do it to get on the inside, then ok. This is my summer vacation, and $25 is entirely reasonable for us in that context.
We won't be camping, so that means we'll leave the fairgrounds each day and return each morning. Any problem or extra cost with that?
Can someone describe the set up? And whether I just need to be in touch with Carlisle, or with others from ACNA, too?
If you want to park your car on the fairgrounds in the Olds section, you pay the $25. Otherwise you park outside or in their parking area and pay both to park and to enter the show. You may as well just pay the $25 though, especially if you plan on going multiple days.
I don't know that there'll be an ACNA club presence to coordinate with, though. But you can always tell them that's the club you are with. You'll probably end up with the other Olds clubs.
Post by stevensolds on Mar 24, 2006 15:23:47 GMT -6
Hey, thats cool that you are going up. At least I wont be the only one now. If you are going to be there at least park on the fairgrounds, its only $25. Plus you get a bag of goodies (if that makes it any better :. You have a Final 500 Rora, its worth it. There was a 500 Alero there last year and that thing wasnt worth the money like your car is. There is a special Olds parking arrangement, you will be with me. I forget what they called it, but it was in the Full Size/Modern class or something. It's all the way in the back and they will show you how to get to it.
Carlisle Report - This weekend was the All GM Nationals, and the All Camaro Nationals too, in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. There were about a half dozen Cadillacs in the Fun Field, about twenty Oldsmobiles (mostly 442s and Hurst/Olds, but one Aurora (mine), and one Starfire), and about 50 each, Pontiacs and Buicks, and several hundred Chevys of all sorts. The emphasis was on muscle, for the most part. Being in the "Fun Field" means your car isn't judged, but there is a sort of popularity vote by class.
In addition, there seemed to be 5,000 Camaros, and some of those were officially judged, again in numerous classes. They really were beautiful. Incredible paint jobs, of course. If you're amused by bright primary colors and loud noises, a car show is the place to be. I liked it.
GM displayed the new Camaro concept and another Chevy concept called the Nomad - a four seater that is not intended for production, but appeared to be just a chance for the Chevy design studio to show off.
I parked next to the Oldsmobile Club of America tent, and met some nice folks in that club.
The most interesting part for me was a 1-hour talk by David North, the original designer/namer for the GTO. (I'm a little unclear on whether he designed the very first GTO - which I thought was just a Tempest with a big engine dropped in it, or whether he designed the first body style distinct from the Tempest, or maybe both.) He also contributed to the body design of one of the 60's Cadillac Eldorados, the Toronado, the Riviera, and the first gen Aurora. Quite an automotive design career!!
The picture I got from David North was that the Aurora idea began as a response to Saturn's desire to offer a full size car. But, that in negotiations with the other divisions, Oldsmobile got it to replace the discontinued Toronado and soon to be discontinued 98. Cadillac was coerced into providing the Northstar, but they didn't like it. It appears a lot of inter-division politics went into the decisions that brought the Aurora to life.
Other than the car show, we had a hard time finding anything else of interest in the area. (That is more a comment on my wife and me, than on the capital city of the great state of Pennsylvania.) I'm sure that if I go again, my wife will not. We stayed one night in the Best Western in Carlisle (very nice for a chain motel - I'd recommend it), and two nights in the Radisson Penn Harris in Harrisburg.
I realize we all have real lives, and not everyone can decide that a trip to a car show should take a part of their precious summer vacation time. When I had kids in the house, I would never have considered such a trip. Nonetheless, I hope to meet some of you next year at Carlisle.
I got 24.3 mpg on the 1020 miles round trip, travelling at the speed limit plus or minus 2 mph, depending on conditions. 2003 4.0L.
You may remember on this thread that previously I indicated that I didn't want to "show" my car, I just wanted to park inside the gates. The parking part went as intended. However, once I got inside, I felt sort of "under dressed" next to every one else's shiny, meticulously clean cars. So, I washed my car on the grounds. And since there were only two cars in my class (Full size Olds, ~1978 and above - or something like that), and apparently since mine was freshly washed, I was awarded first place in my class and came home with a plaque.
Oh, one more thing. In another short presentation, a GM staffer with national responsibility for Camaro and Hummer shows commented on the death of Oldsmobile. In response to the question, "Why Oldsmobile, why not Buick or Pontiac?", he said that Olds was "losing a ton of money." And then went on to note that Olds was losing as much money on each Intrigue as Chevy made on each Impala. His point being, I think, that automobile manufacturing is a mass market, profit-driven business, and that if you can't make a profit on a car, then you just absolutely cannot make that car anymore. This was largely a Camaro audience, and he did not take the time to get into other potential factors, such as advertising support, re-tooling support, price points, market identity, overlap with Pontiac and Buick, etc.
Post by 95mushroom on Jun 25, 2006 22:20:19 GMT -6
Sounded pretty fun. I thought there would be like drag runs, dyno pulls, etc? I really wanted to go, but it just came to quick . Maybe next year, one more year of mods, I might have something worthy to show.