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Post by skizo on Sept 16, 2015 16:33:36 GMT -6
So, what I'm hearing is, Aurora oil pans tend to leak?
Great ... I won't worry about it any more. <G>
I just get a couple small spots on the garage floor ... nothing a bit of sawdust can't handle. Contrary to logic, higher oil pressure must help reduce any leakage, as the bottom of the car is pretty clean. Actually, exceptionally clean right now, as I just got done replacing the crankcase sensors ...
(that was fun)
I'll have to note this though. Anybody ever just pull the crossover pipe and leave it off? I'd also think short collars instead of welding might do the trick to replace it, but not sure if that would give you enough room to clear the pan AND have enough clearance for the collars ...
* I've done "catalytic bypass" pipes in the past, and just had the local muffler shop cut collars from the next size ID pipe. Couple weird ones also required cutting the collars lengthwise and resizing them down. Object is to make them so they slide over the cut section and just a couple spot welds to hold them in place. Lot easier than trying to do all that on the vehicle ok ...
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Post by XJSman89 on Sept 16, 2015 18:21:59 GMT -6
So, what I'm hearing is, Aurora oil pans tend to leak? I used to lose a quart and a half a month between my crankcase and oil pan gaskets. Redoing the pan gasket cut it down to about a quart a month. I threw a quarter of a quart in a week pretty consistently for a couple years. That's cheaper than pulling the motor to reseal it! Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 via the ProBoards app
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Post by sall on Sept 16, 2015 19:36:55 GMT -6
Valve cover gaskets, oil pan, rear main, half case. You name it. The half case leaks more than the pan though.
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skizo
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Post by skizo on Sept 16, 2015 20:16:34 GMT -6
Nowhere near the amount you're talking here. I think most of mine is from the front cover and just kinda sorta moseying down to drip off somewhere else. Like I say, a few drops is all, and I'll end up adding a quart between changes. Couldn't find my usual Kendall Liquid Titanium this time around, so I went with Mobil One ... is that a bad thing? PS ... why do they call it a front cover if it's on the side?
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Post by sall on Sept 16, 2015 20:36:23 GMT -6
Semantics I suppose since transverse mounting. FSM refers to everything in its proper orientation. Not the orientation when looking in/at/under the vehicle. Which is what is easier for most to understand I assume. So we refer to the left valve(rocker) cover as the front valve cover, etc and so forth.
Losing(leaking/burning) a quart of oil between changes is not uncommon in the N* and our derivative of it.
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Post by wfooshee on Sept 17, 2015 5:57:14 GMT -6
Yeah, the end of the engine where power goes out is the always the rear of the engine, no matter which way it sits on the car.
Can you imagine trying to communicate with someone with an engine out of the car, and one of you didn't even know if the car was front or rear drive? "I need the front exhaust manifold." "Dude, there's no manifolds on the front of an engine...."
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Post by Toronado3800 on Sept 17, 2015 6:31:44 GMT -6
So, what I'm hearing is, Aurora oil pans tend to leak? Great ... I won't worry about it any more. <G> I just get a couple small spots on the garage floor ... nothing a bit of sawdust can't handle. Contrary to logic, higher oil pressure must help reduce any leakage, as the bottom of the car is pretty clean. Actually, exceptionally clean right now, as I just got done replacing the crankcase sensors ... (that was fun) I'll have to note this though. Anybody ever just pull the crossover pipe and leave it off? I'd also think short collars instead of welding might do the trick to replace it, but not sure if that would give you enough room to clear the pan AND have enough clearance for the collars ... * I've done "catalytic bypass" pipes in the past, and just had the local muffler shop cut collars from the next size ID pipe. Couple weird ones also required cutting the collars lengthwise and resizing them down. Object is to make them so they slide over the cut section and just a couple spot welds to hold them in place. Lot easier than trying to do all that on the vehicle ok ... It does seem they tend to leak more than other newer cars. Aggrivating thing is how difficult some of the fixes are. The classics are getting up there in age so a 20 year old gasket leaking does not annoy me. More amazing (for someone who owned 70's cars and was around 80's foreign cars), more amazing to me is how well the 20 year old classics run. For perspective Find some episodes of Chips online. Look at all them dark streaks on them huge California Highways. Wonder if that was stuff leaking from 70's cars.
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skizo
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Post by skizo on Sept 17, 2015 11:35:37 GMT -6
That's mostly the crud of ages ... Reminds me of the song ... It never rains in Californiaaaaaaaaaaa" I tell ya true, I have less than fond memories of sliding across the "grease lane" on a bike after the first light rain in months ... yikes! That'll pucker yer bottom it will! So, consensus of opinion seems to be ... ignore it, and just install the ultimate Aurora accessory in the garage ... Wonder if I can get one with the logo onnit? <G>
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Post by sall on Sept 17, 2015 12:37:47 GMT -6
I just use cardboard and carpet remnants haha. Mine leaks three quarter size spots over night. Short drives will leaks more after sitting, but after long rives it doesn't seem to do it as much.
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Post by RCA1186 on Sept 17, 2015 13:27:03 GMT -6
I leak about the same, usually one or two quarter size spots. I haven't decided what to do with my garage (haven't moved in yet.) I might epoxy the floor and just wipe it up haha.
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Post by XJSman89 on Sept 17, 2015 14:29:27 GMT -6
I leak about the same, usually one or two quarter size spots. I haven't decided what to do with my garage (haven't moved in yet.) I might epoxy the floor and just wipe it up haha. EPOXY. You can just wipe it right up. I still used a dip pan under mine instead of just letting it drip on the epoxy, but epoxy is where it's at!
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Post by tigger on Sept 17, 2015 21:26:40 GMT -6
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skizo
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Post by skizo on Sept 17, 2015 21:57:55 GMT -6
Maybe we can get a bulk purchase of cardboard printed with the Aurora logo ...
(Half tempted to make me a stencil, eh ...) <G>
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Post by tigger on Sept 17, 2015 23:09:14 GMT -6
Maybe we can get a bulk purchase of cardboard printed with the Aurora logo ... (Half tempted to make me a stencil, eh ...) <G> Haha, my wife is in retail, so endless supply. Would like to see that stencil though...
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skizo
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Post by skizo on Sept 18, 2015 11:12:28 GMT -6
Careful what you ask for ... Tada! The ULTIMATE Aurora accessory! ... and just when you thought you had everything! . . . (What can I say ... slow day, eh.) <G>
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Post by rorafan on Sept 20, 2015 20:40:03 GMT -6
You guys just described my car. 2-3 quarter-sized oil spots every day. Oil's cheap so I just check & refill on a regular basis. Rockin' an old outdoor mat in an attempt to keep the garage floor clean.
Skizo - Now that is nice!
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Post by tim1993 on Oct 11, 2015 16:37:47 GMT -6
I literally just replaced my oil pan and oil pick up tube and oil sending unit in my 99 and I must say that was a long journey for sure and my mechanic took the route of lifting the engine out of the car. But noe that we got that straightened out I have to replace my egr tube and a gas line.
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