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Post by gator on Nov 10, 2011 23:13:58 GMT -6
What PCM issues did they run into? I couldn't pull up the video. It seems like you should be able to use a piggy-back computer to overcome issues with the stock PCM.
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Post by 02540ico on Nov 15, 2011 9:47:08 GMT -6
I'd probably go a step further and suggest getting a different car. These cars are only going to be so fast. These are nice cars, they sound good, drive nicely, get decent economy, and make reasonable power. But that's about it. Enjoy it for what it is, and get something else to do what it doesn't, and I think you'll be a lot happier. +1 How much power do you think a FWD trans will handle? How much torque would it take to shred the front end? I realize the 'Roras have a very stout chassis, but FWD isn't a good platform for big power. |
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 15, 2011 11:35:18 GMT -6
+1 How much power do you think a FWD trans will handle? How much torque would it take to shred the front end? I realize the 'Roras have a very stout chassis, but FWD isn't a good platform for big power. The 4T80-E transmission used in all V8 Auroras is rated to 305 ft/lbs of engine torque IIRC. |
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Post by 02540ico on Nov 16, 2011 7:43:04 GMT -6
+1 How much power do you think a FWD trans will handle? How much torque would it take to shred the front end? I realize the 'Roras have a very stout chassis, but FWD isn't a good platform for big power. The 4T80-E transmission used in all V8 Auroras is rated to 305 ft/lbs of engine torque IIRC. Exactly my point. 305 isn't alot of torque, and not much of a jump from the stock 260. The only good thing is a turbo system isn't dumping all the additional power instantaneously. |
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Post by Randy T. on Nov 16, 2011 8:10:35 GMT -6
I am sure it could handle more than the rated amount of torque. If it did blow up, no big deal. It's just a transmission, lol. And that's if there was a turbocharged Aurora, which isn't going to happen. I can guarantee that.
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Post by caleditor on Dec 28, 2011 21:20:26 GMT -6
The trans is an 80 as in the class. The 4L65/65 and 4T65 are rated similar. The 4L80 trans behind a 8.1L or D-max is classified the same as the 4T80
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Post by caleditor on Dec 28, 2011 21:21:22 GMT -6
If you want to talk Turbo install shoot me an email
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Post by Randy T. on Dec 29, 2011 8:11:41 GMT -6
We encourage people not to have private discussions when the discussion can benefit the whole forum.
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Post by caleditor on Dec 29, 2011 8:40:58 GMT -6
fair enough
I would need the car at the shop in Rock Hill SC for about 2 weeks to install the unit the proper way and tune it
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Post by NinEFivEFourOH on Dec 29, 2011 11:04:08 GMT -6
Who are you and who do you work for exactly? I'm in Aiken SC and have a 95 Aurora that I'm doing a cammed 4.6 swap into with a lot of other power adders. I need a tune when it's all said and done, was looking at the type of thing that Westers Garage can do or that one place up in New York.
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 5, 2012 16:39:40 GMT -6
WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY! hahaha There is a guy named Bob Norwood who just happens to live 10min north of me, He was THE guy responsible for the Oldsmobile AeroTech for GM! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Aerotech He said he can turbo my car no problem, he turbo's exotics like ferrari's mostly now & twin turbo'd his Lexus ISF. It is expensive though, he said $10k is a good figure due to the custom fabrication. He said we could add 150hp without using an intercooler and that our compression ratio & transmission would be fine for that. He said he would use a 2nd computer to aid the 2nd fuel pump for when the Turbo kicks in. Now if I would have got my car for $2k then I would be home free right now, I am going to work my ass off to save up for this to be done though. |
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Post by caleditor on Jan 5, 2012 16:52:25 GMT -6
Who are you and who do you work for exactly? I'm in Aiken SC and have a 95 Aurora that I'm doing a cammed 4.6 swap into with a lot of other power adders. I need a tune when it's all said and done, was looking at the type of thing that Westers Garage can do or that one place up in New York. We are PCM Calibrators. I have been tuning Northstar’s since 2007. I had another screen name that I had the stop using when we dissolved our other tuning company partnership. Long story and 1 less partner. |
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Post by lkraft92 on Jan 5, 2012 17:01:29 GMT -6
10,000 seems like a lot for a turbo system. would it be a single or twin? good luck with the saving for this project.
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 5, 2012 17:16:17 GMT -6
no doubt, it is a lot to people like us who are not in the "turbo" world. It is a single turbo. I can't believe there are all these people out there spending money like this. Take a look at all the packages here, dallasperformance.com/tuning.html at one of Dallas's leading tuning shops for the Corvette's, Lambo's etc. Most of their packages are in the $30-$50,000 range!!!! that is crazy, you can even check out the Import guys, jotechracing.com/ who Turbo Mitsubishi's, Nissans & Hondas that cost between $7500-10+ for turbo's that get 120hp. I am going to post this in the Cadillac forums too, its not that Aurora & Cadillac owners don't have the money to spend like all these tuner guys on the above websites, it is the fact that there is virtually no tuners out there who want to take the time for our cars. Bob Norwood is one we have now found in Dallas/N Texas & it sounds like we have caleditor up in S.C. - he has videos on youtube with a turbo on a northstar in a mazda pickup & fiero too. |
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Post by bobsblue95 on Jan 6, 2012 9:06:45 GMT -6
It's because there are a lot of rich idiots (and their spoiled kids) in Dallas.
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 6, 2012 13:10:42 GMT -6
bobsblue95- that is low blow, haha. what if their car is paid off & instead of going & buying another used car for $10k they just decide to take pride in the car & give it new life? Plus we all have to work for something we enjoy, or why work at all? You either spend your money on kids, cars, houses, clothes, animals, etc so these are just folks who have a passion for performance. To each his own is what I say, as long as it makes you happy, you only live once.
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Post by aurora4 on Jan 6, 2012 13:21:42 GMT -6
I agree with bob. There are a lot of dumb kids that have these cars and don't know anything about them. Spoiled little brats that think they are better then you, when they didn't work for the car. It was sweet sixteen present from daddy.
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Post by wireless on Jan 6, 2012 13:44:32 GMT -6
I paid $1700 for my first truck that I had for a year before someone totalled it while I was in a store.  |
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 6, 2012 16:18:18 GMT -6
lol Well I guess I am old school, my dad told me I could have any car I wanted for my first car as long as I paid half he would pay the other. I could only save up $600 so my first car was a rear wheel drive 83 Pontiac Parisienne for $1200, it had the big V8 in it =) It was a fun car then I sold it a few years later & got a 1992 Olds 88 Royale
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Post by Blacky Bulger on Jan 7, 2012 0:44:17 GMT -6
CalEditor... you can tune our PCMs?!
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 7, 2012 11:48:03 GMT -6
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Post by Blacky Bulger on Jan 7, 2012 12:30:32 GMT -6
Alright... so, we would have to use a Shelby or LS1 PCM huh?
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Post by bobsblue95 on Jan 7, 2012 14:36:51 GMT -6
There's also a DIY EFI controller if you're really adventurous... www.megasquirt.info/And bravadaurora, the ones I'm talking about are the kids who are given brand new vettes, vipers, porsches, etc. and immediately go dump another 50-100K in upgrades so they can show the most arse on the street. Typically selfish, unproductive members of society. |
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 20, 2012 20:01:24 GMT -6
One of these days I'll have to build an "on the cheap" turbo system for an Aurora Classic 4.0 engine, and test and tune it.
I did this with a 1987 FWD Buick 3.8 and tested it in stages. Found out what the engine can take "stock" before it runs lean or encounters detonaton (5 PSI easy). Then hooked up the laptop and did some tuning but kept the stock inectors. It would run out of fuel flow at 8 PSI. But the power started to get serious at that point.
And then finally with proper injectors. That's when things got frightening serious. I'm sure as with the Buick expiriment, the transmission will ultimately limit the boost that can be applied to a stock Aurora powertrain.
Some day I will do this but not currently in the plans because of too many other projects!
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Post by kinfolk87 on Jan 20, 2012 21:08:15 GMT -6
why not just supercharge it would those have basically the same results yea turbo is better but i would give a general idea
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Post by sall on Jan 20, 2012 21:18:48 GMT -6
... while you're spending the 10 grand just go ahead and make her wheel wheel drive...
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 20, 2012 22:54:42 GMT -6
Last turbo conversion I did with used parts (junkyard ebay etc) cost me exactly $600 in parts. Every nut, bolt, tube, and part. Got half again the power the engine started with. People who spend 10,000 on a turbo conversion are buying a turn-key job (engine build, turbo install, tune) for a certain level of HP. I'm talking about is DIY stuff here. A farm shop wintertime project, on a spare car that's not needed every day. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, see this: www.a-body.net/forums/showthread.php?2136-Turbo-conversion-as-cheap-and-simple-as-possibleIf that doesn't work, look here for same car without all the tech details: www.cardomain.com/ride/3333733Sincerely, David |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 23:34:53 GMT -6
These threads are getting rediculously old. Can someone either just turbo/supercharge an Aurora BEFORE they post a thread about doing so?
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2012 2:21:06 GMT -6
It is a challenge that would cost more $$$ than usual. Remote set up on a really long car. I've decided not to do it after I started to plan everything and realize its more work than I'm willing to do, and more money than i have to spend.
So I agree^^, it seems like the thing to do because nobody has, but usually there's a reason for it.
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Post by Randy T. on Jan 21, 2012 8:12:37 GMT -6
These threads are getting rediculously old. Can someone either just turbo/supercharge an Aurora BEFORE they post a thread about doing so? No. |
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