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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 21, 2012 8:34:19 GMT -6
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Post by sall on Jan 21, 2012 9:37:06 GMT -6
Last turbo conversion I did with used parts (junkyard ebay etc) cost me exactly $600 in parts. Every nut, bolt, tube, and part. Got half again the power the engine started with. People who spend 10,000 on a turbo conversion are buying a turn-key job (engine build, turbo install, tune) for a certain level of HP. I'm talking about is DIY stuff here. A farm shop wintertime project, on a spare car that's not needed every day. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, see this: www.a-body.net/forums/showthread.php?2136-Turbo-conversion-as-cheap-and-simple-as-possibleIf that doesn't work, look here for same car without all the tech details: www.cardomain.com/ride/3333733Sincerely, David I was referring to Bobsblue and Bravadaurora figure of $10 grand. At that point you may as well make it rear wheel drive. With money and time anything is possible. Good stuff on the links you posted. If you had been around here it's been a project that many have talked about, claimed to have been in the process of or finished with but not one iota of progress update, a picture, a dyno run, or time slips. These threads go this way all the time. Just like the tuning the PCM. No one is willing to do a sample just as proof for the forum. |
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 21, 2012 9:42:18 GMT -6
aura1: if you don't like the thread just move on, this thread has really educated us all here who are serious which is more then negative nancy comments do. From this thread we have learned that it *IS* possible for DIY people who have a "project" car or people who want to take their car to someone who will do everything for you like I found the guy who also did the Oldsmobile Aerotech(Awesome). Some of us actually do have the ability to pay for this, it just takes time to save up for our cause because *before* this thread everyone just said *no* and all the big tuner shops in Dallas did not want to take on my car as a project bc they are all consumed with the super cars or imports.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 11:00:28 GMT -6
aura1: if you don't like the thread just move on, this thread has really educated us all here who are serious which is more then negative nancy comments do. From this thread we have learned that it *IS* possible for DIY people who have a "project" car or people who want to take their car to someone who will do everything for you like I found the guy who also did the Oldsmobile Aerotech(Awesome). Some of us actually do have the ability to pay for this, it just takes time to save up for our cause because *before* this thread everyone just said *no* and all the big tuner shops in Dallas did not want to take on my car as a project bc they are all consumed with the super cars or imports. I apologize if I offended you. But just take a brief look at the history of ACNA performance section. And a look at how many turbo threads have been very "informative." Almost everytime this topic comes up informative information is posted, shared, and explained. This is NOT the first thread that explains what a turbo does, the possibilities of installing one, where you can find the parts, etc..etc..etc.. I am not a nay sayer by any means, I would love to see an Aurora charged. I just don't see it happening. I think it would be a great accomplishment if you would prove me wrong here. |
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 21, 2012 14:41:41 GMT -6
Thank you! I am relatively new here, coming to look for info on my dad's car. Didn't realize this thread was sort of 'controversial' until reading back over the whole thing. There are 2 things that are for sure. Dreamers are going to dream. And, naysayers are going to nay-say. Been this way since the beginning of humanity. I'm savvy enough to recognize dreamers, posers, and fakes. There are plenty of them. On another board, a particular member has claimed, repeatedly, to have a "300 HP Honda-eating turbo (car)" It's been on Car Domain for years. Had everything from other people's turbo engine picture to copy and pasted text from other build stories. Finally when the ruse started to fall apart, there appeared a story about how the turbo had failed and it was too expensive to fix blah blah blah. This person could probably not R&I the turbo on a factory-turbo car with the FSM in front of him! I get some good laughs from these type. Always stories, excuses and nothing real. The saddest one was a video of the car taking 9 seconds to go 0-60 and all the excuses of as to why it was so slow. Because it is bone-stock actually.  Then the other end of the spectrum are the naysayers who continue to naysay in the face of irrefutable evidence. My first turbo conversion was about 18 years ago on a Chevy 2.8 engine. A technician from the shop next door (who I came to call Negative Nate, for this and other reasons!) had been telling me how this would not work, during my build. By my standards now it was extremely crude, but it did work. It would only make 5 or 6 PSI but it did work because it was a metered-air system. After I had the car running, I took Negative Nate for a ride in it. He was SO stuck on the fact that it could not work - that he was explaining how it was NOT working as we were riding around in the car. When it was so apparent that the turbo did work; he then tried to tell me that my engine had "a problem causing it to accidentally work right" and that if all my parts were really in working order, the engine could NOT actually be running like this! I like to stay in the middle of the spectrum. Keep it FOR FUN because that's what got me interested in this from the beginning. When people get too serious about it, it's not fun anymore. I didn't intend to stir things up and hope to leave on a humorous note here. Sincerely, David |
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2012 15:42:53 GMT -6
Couldn'tagree more David. What matters is how you deal with the world. We are just a bunch of dudes that love Aurora's. Most of us anyway. Welcome n is there's a car you would trade an Aurora for then you haven't caught the disease yet, lol.
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Post by bravadaurora on Jan 21, 2012 15:59:13 GMT -6
aura1 - It did not offend me, it is just This is the only thread that I have actually found to find someone who is willing to turbo our Aurora's, I am not a DIY'er . to share my point of view on this topic - The couple who bought my Aurora new from the Dealer paid somewhere around $32 + TT&L - Even though I could go out & buy a new car too, I bought their car at the Dealer for $10,900 with only 13,100 miles & even if I invested $11,000 more to Turbo it then my total investment will still be less then $25k including my other mods like wheels & exhaust etc ------ Could I go out & buy another car with that money, the answer is Yes but I love my Aurora & would be proud to inspire other people with the work done to it because it is not like "every other car" that you constantly see at the Auto Shows. I hope this helps put my perspective out there on this topic - I was discouraged at first but thanks to Caleditor's post on here I was able to discover some new research that lead me to the Aerotech guy who lives right near me. I appreciate the information that everyone has shared on this thread because of it! turbokinetic That is an awesome build dude & great write up, glad you were able to breath some new life into that ride!
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Post by sall on Jan 21, 2012 16:06:30 GMT -6
Could I go out & buy another car with that money, the answer is Yes but I love my Aurora & would be proud to inspire other people with the work done to it because it is not like "every other car" that you constantly see at the Auto Shows. You're alright in my book! ;D |
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 21, 2012 16:09:45 GMT -6
... if there's a car you would trade an Aurora for then you haven't caught the disease yet, lol. I like what I grew up around; and respect the prototypes, rare cars, and limited production ones. I wouldn't trade my dad's 1995 Aurora Classic away. When he tires of it, it will be mine to care for and restore. I've got the disease. To the point when I see a 95 (or any classic) Aurora in the junkyard, I look at it and want to cry if it's one that still had a chance but was forsaken. The only car that belongs there is one that's demolished. I needed a couple extra 95 chips and ECM's for a tuning project so I went junyarding. I ended up with 2 ECM's and untold emotional scars from seeing so many NEAR PERFECT cars junked out. Ones that were actually better than mine, but had a bad engine or trans etc and had been cast away as trash. These cars had 'the look' and 'the shape' years before it was mainstream. They were the prototype of the 2000's cars. For that they should be preserved. Sincerely, David |
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2012 17:04:05 GMT -6
Junkyard Aurora's just hurt my feelings, I love seeing them on long road trips.
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2012 17:20:46 GMT -6
I had thought of breaking the output from the turbo in a rear remote set up into a coppet honeycomb, then flatten it out so you have 7 flat 1" copper pipe running under car to the intake. The worlds greatest inner cooler, and space saving on ground clearance.
That was part of my original plan. I had also planned on using and making a remote oil pump that worked from electric motor. I have a half assembled box with my old oil pump in it. Piped to a outlet and inlet with 2 quart capacity.
I was also going to use a dual flange single turbo, it has 2 exhaust inlets so pressure waves aren't disturbed before entering the turbine. I have a garrett GR42R I wad gonna use.
Hope some of this is helpful in your planning.
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Post by caleditor on Jan 23, 2012 11:11:06 GMT -6
There's also a DIY EFI controller if you're really adventurous... www.megasquirt.info/And bravadaurora, the ones I'm talking about are the kids who are given brand new vettes, vipers, porsches, etc. and immediately go dump another 50-100K in upgrades so they can show the most arse on the street. Typically selfish, unproductive members of society. Megasquirt will not run give the information needed so the other modules will work correctly |
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 28, 2012 10:33:19 GMT -6
After reading that the supercharger was installed by Shelby with no additional mods. I might go through with my turbo. If I can get my trans beefed up.
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