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Post by genone on May 2, 2012 9:21:50 GMT -6
While I still would agree to call the engine in a Shelby Series 1 a modified Aurora engine, I don't see it not fitting to say my engine was a Shelby motor, or modified to what the Shelby Series 1 used. It is just easier and simpler to say it was a Series 1 motor. Esp. to people who do not understand what cams are or modifying an engine really means. I have a SBC that I was going to install in a Lamborghini Murcielago. I didn't, but since I was going to does that mean I can call it a Lamborghini Murcielago engine? Just because an engine was supposed to go in a car doesn't make it that car's engine. Just what makes your engine a "Shelby engine"? The stock Northstar cams? Let us see what your engine looked like when you received it. The pictures of it, out of the crate, to see what intake was installed. If Shelby didn't get around to installing the correct intake, what makes you think they did get around to installing the Vin 9 Northstar cams and springs? |
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Post by shelbyracing on May 2, 2012 10:29:36 GMT -6
All you have to do is take a video, show the road first and compare where the power band is under load. 0-80 or 0-140 It wasn't in a factory crate, the guy had to make one to ship it to me. It did not come to him in a crate, only on a pallet. All the other engines I looked at were in a GM crate with plastic around them, no pilot bearing or egr plates. Also I don't know anybody in their right mind that would use a small block in a Lamborghini for any reason. With only 4K ever produced I also doubt you've ever even seen one.  |
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Post by RCA1186 on May 2, 2012 14:24:44 GMT -6
I have a SBC that I was going to install in a Lamborghini Murcielago. I didn't, but since I was going to does that mean I can call it a Lamborghini Murcielago engine? Just because an engine was supposed to go in a car doesn't make it that car's engine. Well in this case yes it does, it was meant to go into the car. FACTORY. It was not produced with any other engine.The Aurora motor is what the series 1 was designed to have. A small block chevy was never factory designed to be in a lambo lol What if you pulled the motor out of a series 1, and took every mod off it but the cams and put it in the Aurora. Wouldn't it be an engine from a shelby series 1? Honestly I don't care what shelbyracing or anyone else calls, it......calling it shelby or not, WHO CARES?!?! lol |
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Post by Blacky Bulger on May 2, 2012 15:57:04 GMT -6
I started a mess   ..... Let me clean it up... We all know what we mean if we call it a 4.6 modded cam swaped intake motor / Shelby / Series 1 engine / Aurora v8.... We are getting off topic here!!  So in reality no benefit from vin y cams or vin9 on an autobahn tranny.... better off with a complete swap like shelby and nivefourfiveoh are doing... from my assumptions...  |
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Post by genone on May 3, 2012 0:32:11 GMT -6
No, no benefit from the cams or the swap. Once again, the Shelby Series One engine is no different than a stock Aurora engine. The swap will only improve performance if your current engine is hurt. Swapping to higher RPM cams from the 300hp 4.6 will only decrease your torque and not increase the HP enough to make up for it. Your computer will tach out before the cams can produce full power.
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Post by Blacky Bulger on May 3, 2012 21:30:38 GMT -6
I see.... I just realized that you guys replied awhile ago saying we have the 4.6 cams already the Vin Y cams at least....  You say you may be able to try and get your company to produce parts?... I am going to cross my fingers.... ;D So I guess CHRFAB cams wouldn't do much justice due to the computer... so if at all we could run a standalone computer and lose some luxuries... but gain performance? |
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Post by shelbyracing on May 3, 2012 22:13:18 GMT -6
Wester's Garage is what I plan to do..
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Post by genone on May 4, 2012 6:20:32 GMT -6
So I guess CHRFAB cams wouldn't do much justice due to the computer... so if at all we could run a standalone computer and lose some luxuries... but gain performance? Well I'm looking into the possibility of running a piggy back 0411 PCM along with all the factory original stuff still in place. If I can get the Aurora PCM thinking it is controlling the engine by leaving the necessary sensors in place but actually running the engine on the tunable 0411 I might be able to keep the CELs off and all the stock electronics working. |
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Post by genone on May 4, 2012 6:27:06 GMT -6
It wasn't in a factory crate, the guy had to make one to ship it to me. It did not come to him in a crate, only on a pallet. All the other engines I looked at were in a GM crate with plastic around them, no pilot bearing or egr plates. Also I don't know anybody in their right mind that would use a small block in a Lamborghini for any reason. With only 4K ever produced I also doubt you've ever even seen one. Okay, so this is one of those "the guy who sold it to me" engines? Like I said before, this was an engine used fairly often in swaps. It is more likely to have been intended on going in a 5 speed Fiero than a Series One. What I'm saying is you have zero documentation that it was ever even touched by Shelby. You bought it from a guy who bought it from a guy; who knows where it came from? Be proud it is an Aurora motor. They are great engines, and that is why the Series One used our motor. We did not use theirs and, as a matter of simple fact, there is no such thing as a Shelby engine. They have used Ford, Chrysler and GM mills in their vehicles. Never have they made their own engine. |
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Post by shelbyracing on May 4, 2012 8:20:14 GMT -6
The guy got it from the plant. It cost me 400$ to get it shipped from Las Vegas, which happens to be where the assembly plant was.
Also if a guy who owned a Series 1 needed a new motor from a GM dealer. I believe he would say he needed an engine for his Series 1. But really who cares? Obviously you do, no one else seems to..
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