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Post by bubbasqueeze on Nov 27, 2009 0:47:02 GMT -6
What a great forum this is. I can't believe the wealth of knowledge here. I was going to buy a tech manual on the car till I found this site. Now I'm like.. Why bother. No question this is a great resource for all of us. A service manual can still be a huge help though. I got on here before I bought my Aurora, and I bought a service manual off ebay shortly after. It's been a huge help for me. Just a few weeks ago I had all 3 volumes of that manual laying open on my car with a couple friends and I pouring over instructions to troubleshoot a problem. I just went and looked and seen manuals for my Aurora on ebat! I may just go ahead and get them, they're a nice compliment to owning the car. And no doubt I'll eventually need them cause I really like these cars. Thank You for the Heads UP on the ebay resource Jeremy! They appear to be original GM manuals. |
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Post by jeremy1980 on Nov 29, 2009 10:15:43 GMT -6
You're welcome. Mine are also an original GM manual. You'll have a hell of a time finding an aftermarket manual for our cars, and I don't have much faith in them anyway so it's probably best to get the real deal. LOTS of shops are selling them on ebay because they've switched over to manuals on computer. I got all 3 volumes of my manual for $30 (with shipping!). Glad you decided to check them out. If you find one on there for your Aurora you'll be glad you have them later on.  |
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Post by slimpee on Jan 4, 2010 11:17:46 GMT -6
First off, nice to see all of you! I haven't been around the site for a while but my girl is sick and in need of care  So I need to replace the wires (open spark jumping from coil to wire) and should probably replace the plugs while i'm at it. The shop quoted me $600 for the job. Ouch. I can certainly call around but this sounds awfully high considering the parts are around $150. Even at $400 it still a lot of money. Thoughts on the quoted price? So, i'm thinking of doing with w/ my brother-in-law who is good at these sorts of things. I've never tackled anything like this before but he has torn apart several engines and recently replaced the turbos on the Audi S4. Is this job something an amateur and knowledgeable amateur can tackle? |
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Post by jdmfish on Jan 4, 2010 13:28:17 GMT -6
First off, nice to see all of you! I haven't been around the site for a while but my girl is sick and in need of care So I need to replace the wires (open spark jumping from coil to wire) and should probably replace the plugs while i'm at it. The shop quoted me $600 for the job. Ouch. I can certainly call around but this sounds awfully high considering the parts are around $150. Even at $400 it still a lot of money. Thoughts on the quoted price? So, i'm thinking of doing with w/ my brother-in-law who is good at these sorts of things. I've never tackled anything like this before but he has torn apart several engines and recently replaced the turbos on the Audi S4. Is this job something an amateur and knowledgeable amateur can tackle? I was quoted $400 from an Olds dealership here. I really like going to them, if it's only going to cost a little more, than the local mechanic my parents have been going to for some 25 years. $400 included AC Delco parts, 2 or 3 coils (I think it was 2), labor, and tax. The local mechanic my parents go to, charged me $299 out the door, including all the above, and I kept the AC Delco parts boxes, because I wanted to be assured original parts were used. He also rotated and balanced all 4 tires, as well, which was a nice touch. But again, I'm not mechanically inclined. |
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Post by slimpee on Jan 4, 2010 20:23:14 GMT -6
How about Bosch vs. AC Delco for the wires? The Bosch wireset is $63 at Autozone while the AC Delco set is $102 at Advance.
Thoughts?
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Post by hiphophead on Jan 4, 2010 20:32:06 GMT -6
I saw somewhere here on the forum that the Duralast plug wire set at Autozone functions just as well as the AC Delco plug wire set. Longevity wise I am not sure how they match up or anything about the warranty. Most of the time the AC Delco's will carry LIFETIME warranty.  |
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Post by slimpee on Jan 4, 2010 20:36:29 GMT -6
I saw somewhere here on the forum that the Duralast plug wire set at Autozone functions just as well as the AC Delco plug wire set. Longevity wise I am not sure how they match up or anything about the warranty. Most of the time the AC Delco's will carry LIFETIME warranty. The Bosch carries a limited lifetime warranty |
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Post by bobsblue95 on Jan 4, 2010 21:04:23 GMT -6
About changing the rear plugs on a classic, I had a 96 and after I got the coil pack off, I cut a notch in the bolt holes so that if I EVER had to pull the pack again, I wouldn't need to remove the bolts, just loosen them. BRILLIANT!!! |
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Post by adfdsfdwefsfd on May 21, 2011 13:46:34 GMT -6
Can someone post photos? I cannot find cylinder 1,3,5,7..........................
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Post by RCA1186 on May 21, 2011 13:48:26 GMT -6
They are under the coil packs you have to remove them to get access
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Post by adfdsfdwefsfd on May 21, 2011 22:58:21 GMT -6
Is there an easy way to test coil packs? I don't think replacing coil packs should be as a considered routine maintenance if they are still good.
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Post by adfdsfdwefsfd on May 21, 2011 23:00:02 GMT -6
I saw somewhere here on the forum that the Duralast plug wire set at Autozone functions just as well as the AC Delco plug wire set. Longevity wise I am not sure how they match up or anything about the warranty. Most of the time the AC Delco's will carry LIFETIME warranty. The Bosch carries a limited lifetime warranty I think the problem is it actually costs a lot more to return a spark plug than buying new ones... When the car is not driveable usually I cant wait for the RMA process.... Do I need a spark plug socket? What size? I thought regular socket can do the job, but some people say it would be hard to fit the plug back in without a spark plug socket |
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Post by bobsblue95 on May 22, 2011 14:00:24 GMT -6
Yes you need a spark plug socket, the smaller one, and a six inch extension.
When you go to reinstall them you'll see why.
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Post by tipsymcstager on May 22, 2011 22:41:18 GMT -6
Yes you need a spark plug socket, the smaller one, and a six inch extension. When you go to reinstall them you'll see why. i got an old thin top boot, wirh about 10" of wire still on it. i like to use, to start a plug thread. rather then the socket. you get a better feel on the threads that way |
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Post by RCA1186 on May 23, 2011 8:42:48 GMT -6
Is there an easy way to test coil packs? I don't think replacing coil packs should be as a considered routine maintenance if they are still good. Do you have a misfire? I know some autozones can test them for you, otherwise if you know which cylinder is misfiring swap the coil pack for that cylinder to a different one and see if the misfire moves to that cylinder, or if both cylinders on controlled by that coil are misfiring I'd say it would be a safe bet that its the pack. |
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Post by bobsblue95 on May 23, 2011 9:07:40 GMT -6
Yes you need a spark plug socket, the smaller one, and a six inch extension. When you go to reinstall them you'll see why. i got an old thin top boot, wirh about 10" of wire still on it. i like to use, to start a plug thread. rather then the socket. you get a better feel on the threads that way Good one. Or just a short length of rubber hose. |
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Post by wireless on Oct 12, 2011 18:55:13 GMT -6
Just did the plugs.
Put in NGK V-Power (TR-55's) after gapping them all to spec.
Took about an hour 15 minutes -- Main problem was getting to the bolts behind the coil pack, and the blasted spark plug socket kept getting stuck inside the socket well...
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Post by Randy T. on Oct 12, 2011 23:03:07 GMT -6
A little lube with each plug helps that situation.
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Post by Randy T. on Nov 23, 2011 8:12:58 GMT -6
I figured out plug wires for '98-'99 Auroras are cheaper than '95-'97 Auroras. They look the same and have the exact same specs, just a different part number. This is in the Duralast brand at Autozone.
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Post by bobsblue95 on Apr 23, 2012 7:20:40 GMT -6
Not to beat a dead horse, but I've recently realized a huge problem. The standard spark plug socket/extension removal method can have a tendency to crack spark plugs, especially in the back bank where it's hard to get good leverage. The reason is that the 3/8" extension allows the socket to tilt just enough to put pressure on the plug and crack it, like the plug shown below. Recently I discovered this awesome extra long plug socket. Not only is it too thick at the top to allow significant tilting, but it sticks up past the top of the valve cover, so if it sticks on the plug it's easy to grab with pliers.  I wish I'd discovered this socket sooner! Apparently I'd cracked three plugs without even realizing it. The socket would have paid for itself twice over. HTH! |
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Post by sall on Apr 23, 2012 8:51:07 GMT -6
Yeah Bob that's the spark plug socket I use. I got mine at HF a few years back.
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Post by Captain on May 28, 2014 13:57:25 GMT -6
I know this is an older thread, but it's a great read. Thanks to everyone for the heads-up on the potential issues.
Now I'm off to the local Canadian Tire to get a longer spark plug socket!
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Post by bruce59 on Mar 31, 2017 14:57:02 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Appreciated the info and just changed my plugs and wires. Will reinstall coils etc tomorrow. Mine is a 98 with 149000 kilometers which is about 90,000 miles!.
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