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Post by my 2001 aurora on Jul 24, 2015 21:00:24 GMT -6
I have a 2001 aurora and my Windows won't roll down only the driver side window work and my doors don't unlock when I press the button only the driver side door unlock and lock. I check all of the fuses and it didn't do Anything.. can someone tell me what I can do??
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Post by tigger on Jul 24, 2015 22:20:25 GMT -6
Wow, this is getting pandemic, lol! All passenger door modules have to send a request to (and get a response from) the driver's door module over a serial data link before anything will operate. There is a splice under the carpet, under the driver's seat, in the body wiring harness where these data lines connect. A poor connector was used for this splice and it often fails, primarily from water intrusion and subsequent corrosion. Here's a pic from another thread showing the splice; I'm thinking serial data splice. You'll have to pull the driver's seat and carpet to check it though.  And welcome to ACNA! |
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Post by my 2001 aurora on Jul 27, 2015 14:06:57 GMT -6
Do you know where I can take it to get it fixed?? I wouldn't want to do it myself
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Post by sall on Jul 27, 2015 14:17:45 GMT -6
Do you know where I can take it to get it fixed?? I wouldn't want to do it myself C'mon... you can do it! Believe!! |
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Post by tigger on Jul 28, 2015 22:27:07 GMT -6
^Yes, you can do this!
I would imagine any shop could do the job, for several hundred of your hard earned dollars! A friend and I fixed his '02 Bonnie for 5 bucks!
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Post by beiland on Aug 30, 2015 22:04:06 GMT -6
I've got (had) the same specific problem with my 2001 for quite awhile. I was checking all of the connectors above the carpet under the seat, and not finding the problem. Sure hopes this works.
Now can you tell me specifically where this 'splice' is in the photo? I only see 1 visible 'connector'?
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Post by tigger on Aug 30, 2015 22:40:06 GMT -6
That's it.
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Post by beiland on Sept 1, 2015 17:44:58 GMT -6
Wow, this is getting pandemic, lol! All passenger door modules have to send a request to (and get a response from) the driver's door module over a serial data link before anything will operate. There is a splice under the carpet, under the driver's seat, in the body wiring harness where these data lines connect. A poor connector was used for this splice and it often fails, primarily from water intrusion and subsequent corrosion. Here's a pic from another thread showing the splice; I'm thinking serial data splice. You'll have to pull the driver's seat and carpet to check it though. And welcome to ACNA! What side (upper or lower) of that photo is towards the front of the vehicle? Is that bear area under the drivers seat, or further back towards the rear foot area behind the driver's seat? Are you saying I really need to unbolt the drivers seat to get to this connector? |
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Post by tigger on Sept 2, 2015 1:05:46 GMT -6
What side (upper or lower) of that photo is towards the front of the vehicle? Is that bear area under the drivers seat, or further back towards the rear foot area behind the driver's seat? Are you saying I really need to unbolt the drivers seat to get to this connector? Yeah, sorry, not many points of reference in that pic if you've never been under the carpet before. Here's one of club member Aurora40 's 2G "stripped down". White arrow indicates the approximate location of the splice your looking for in the harness. 4 tan/white stripe wires...  And if you can get to it without removing the driver's seat, please share, lol...  Not as hard as you think it might be... HTH |
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Post by beiland on Sept 2, 2015 9:20:09 GMT -6
Thanks, that photo helps a lot (all I have to do is remember how to spell 'bare',...unbelievable this old age stuff).
If I have to take the seat out, and it looks like it is necessary to do a fairly neat job of it,....can the seat be remounted to give more leg room for the driver. Can it be moved back a notch or two??
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Post by tigger on Sept 2, 2015 22:07:21 GMT -6
....can the seat be remounted to give more leg room for the driver. Can it be moved back a notch or two?? Has been a while, but I'm thinking no. |
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Post by Hurricane87 on Sept 10, 2015 0:38:02 GMT -6
....can the seat be remounted to give more leg room for the driver. Can it be moved back a notch or two?? Has been a while, but I'm thinking no. I changed out my driver's seat at the end of last year, and I'm here to tell you that ths answer is, no. |
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Post by frank on Oct 31, 2015 10:39:36 GMT -6
Hello All. I have had my 96 since 2000. I am experiencing similar problems. Does the 96 have the same splice issue as th 2001??
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Post by RCA1186 on Oct 31, 2015 12:47:46 GMT -6
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Post by beiland on Dec 23, 2015 11:07:23 GMT -6
What side (upper or lower) of that photo is towards the front of the vehicle? Is that bear area under the drivers seat, or further back towards the rear foot area behind the driver's seat? Are you saying I really need to unbolt the drivers seat to get to this connector? Yeah, sorry, not many points of reference in that pic if you've never been under the carpet before. Here's one of club member Aurora40 's 2G "stripped down". White arrow indicates the approximate location of the splice your looking for in the harness. 4 tan/white stripe wires... And if you can get to it without removing the driver's seat, please share, lol... Not as hard as you think it might be... HTH I'm finally getting around to fixing this problem, and yes I had to loosen up all of the seat bolts (4). Now I am searching thru the wires and I can NOT find those 2 wires and the connector you show in that photo? Could that connector and the wires be inside the main bundle of wires there rather than outside of it like shown? I'm going to take some photos of mine. |
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Post by beiland on Dec 23, 2015 11:09:09 GMT -6
oops wrong photo link
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Post by beiland on Dec 23, 2015 13:00:46 GMT -6
Okay I found that little 'connector' inside that main black harness. It was even smaller than I anticipated, and a total piece of crap. Who in their right mind would put such a thing in a car. Now I have managed to strip the 4 wires that where connected via this little connector and temporarily joint then back together via twisting the bare ends together. Since there appeared no discernible color coding on the wires, I experimented with them connected in one manner, then the other. I was hoping that one particular manner of connecting them would result in all the windows working properly. But rather in one instance the pass side rear window would now work, but the other 2 would not. In the second configuration the pass side front window would work, but the 2 rear ones would not?? What might I have done wrong??      |
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Post by tigger on Dec 23, 2015 16:33:46 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, how many ways can you twist together four wires?
That scotchlok looks awful! Might want to cut those wire back a couple inches and solder in new.
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Post by beiland on Dec 24, 2015 5:30:58 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, how many ways can you twist together four wires? That scotchlok looks awful! Might want to cut those wire back a couple inches and solder in new. I asked myself that same question  Yes I had to tug on those wires to get them to a point where I might temporarily twist them together. And they are of such a small gauge that perhaps they are 'interrupted' further back from the existing ends. I will probably give cutting them back a try, but as they exit the frame rail on the outboard side there is not much length to work with. I found it rather strange that in one instance only one rear window would work. I never had trouble with individual windows working. |
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Post by beiland on Dec 24, 2015 14:21:45 GMT -6
[quote timestamp="1441151098" All passenger door modules have to send a request to (and get a response from) the driver's door module over a serial data link before anything will operate. There is a splice under the carpet, under the driver's seat, in the body wiring harness where these data lines connect. A poor connector was used for this splice and it often fails, primarily from water intrusion and subsequent corrosion. Here's a pic from another thread showing the splice; [/quote]  So I pulled the seat totally into the rear so I could get the wiring. From the looks of that connector I assumed that each of these two wires were making connection with one another. And as I posted before I was having trouble determining when one went with each one.? Now it appears as though all 4 ends get connected together? In other words some sort of signal comes from the front of the car on one of those exposed wires running down the side of the vehicle, then it feeds that signal to each of 3 window/doors, each with their own wire? Is that correct?? |
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Post by tigger on Dec 24, 2015 15:39:53 GMT -6
Yes, that is correct. That's why I asked, “how many ways can you twist together four wires?”. Now I see why you were having trouble, haha.
Connect all of them and you should be set!
I would suggest solder and heat shrink tubing or you may be back under there sooner than you want. Let us know how it turns out...
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Post by Mjust1 on Jul 24, 2016 16:49:11 GMT -6
How do I remove the switch panel in olds aurora 2001 drivers door.
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Post by paulaurora on Jul 24, 2016 19:49:11 GMT -6
The main window switch just pulls up form the bottom side with a lil force .
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Post by propaul on Apr 6, 2019 18:56:23 GMT -6
I just did mine today, it was very simple. It was tan colored with four tan wires with white stripe.  iti |
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Post by irlfan82 on May 15, 2019 19:02:58 GMT -6
Could this be my issue as well. Drivers side window works but the other three do not. If I hit the switches on the drivers side I can hear the relay clicking on each door. I can go to reach door and hit the switches and hear the relays clicking.
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Post by tigger on May 16, 2019 15:28:50 GMT -6
If you can't operate the windows and locks on all passenger doors, then I would think this splice issue is your problem.
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Post by irlfan82 on May 16, 2019 16:53:53 GMT -6
Just went and checked, all the doors lock from the drivers side..
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Post by RCA1186 on May 17, 2019 9:31:25 GMT -6
Quite possible you have 3 bad regulators/motors. Not unheard of as the regulators fail....regularly..on the 2G. Did this happen all at once or did you buy the car this way?
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Post by tigger on May 17, 2019 14:50:24 GMT -6
Quite possible you have 3 bad regulators/motors. Not unheard of as the regulators fail....regularly..on the 2G. HEY! I still have 3 originals! 2G hater.  Rob is right though, likely 3 bad motors. |
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Post by irlfan82 on May 29, 2019 19:46:47 GMT -6
No the drivers rear didn't work when I got it and then the rear passenger worked when it wanted to, finally the front passenger stopped..
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