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Post by schlotzky on Dec 8, 2015 17:49:44 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out why my sunroof is adding so much noise to my cabin. There is a significant noticeable difference between sunshade open vs. sunshade closed, which leads my sunshade to always being closed. This is in my 1997 Buick Park Avenue Ultra. I distinctly remember doing the sunshade open/closed test in my 1998 Aurora and noting that there was no discernible noise level difference (I did the same test in my Jeep and also notice no noise difference). I already replaced the sunroof seal and readjusted its parked position with absolutely no difference, and I believe the part number is exactly the same as the Aurora.
Can someone post up what the markings on their sunroof are so I can compare? Maybe I'm better off stealing the glass from an Aurora, as I can't think of anything else that would lead to the described issue. I even tried stuffing a jacket into where the sunroof retracts in case the sound was coming from the roof area, but the sound seems to be coming right through the glass.
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Post by emarkay on Dec 8, 2015 18:37:03 GMT -6
Strange, but the sunshade will be an insulator from light and sound. If it's making wind noise - water may be getting in also... What markings are you looking for?
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Post by Randy T. on Dec 8, 2015 21:04:36 GMT -6
My Cadillac SRX is the same way, sunroof is real loud with the screen open, it's an aftermarket type that is in a bunch of Cadillacs. There were also a few Auroras that had aftermarket dealer installed sunroofs. Maybe your Buick is an aftermarket roof?
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Post by skizo on Dec 8, 2015 21:39:30 GMT -6
Try taping around the edges and see if that helps. Clear packing tape would probably be a good choice. That would indicate something still isn't right with the seals. You can do the credit card trick - slide that around the edges and see if there's any gaps. Also, it takes time for a new seal to conform properly, but you can speed it along with a heat gun ... Next step would be to liberally apply silicone lube. Rub it on thick and work it in with a finger. Repeat as needed. Worked wonders for my door seals. 
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Post by schlotzky on Dec 8, 2015 22:46:32 GMT -6
I don't have any reason to believe the sunroof is aftermarket. Everything looks factory and it seems to function the same as the one in the Aurora. How might I tell?
I tried taping the seal on the outside and driving around. I thought it seemed to make some amount of difference, so I replaced the seal. I think it was in my head.
There is a etched stamp in the glass toward the back of the sunroof. Mine says: TEMPERLITE AP Tech M2L4 A23 DOT-376 43R-002444
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Post by tigger on Dec 9, 2015 21:00:14 GMT -6
X2 on the silicone grease! Once yearly on the door, trunk, and sunroof seals.
CF5 is the RPO for factory sliding glass roof...
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Post by human on Dec 10, 2015 10:40:23 GMT -6
I don't recall the sun shade being open or closed making any difference with road noise on my '98 but it sure does on my '95. That car had a massive water leakage problem when I first got it but it was corrected when I took it to a glass shop and they repaired the drain lines. I still have a moisture issue with the trunk that has killed a CD changer and two sets of rear speakers and left rust on quite a few tools.
Daily Driver: 2011 Impala LT Weekend Toy: 1995 Aurora
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Post by Toronado3800 on Dec 10, 2015 17:25:39 GMT -6
I just had oak leaves stuck by my wipers creating road noise for me.
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Post by Marc on Dec 10, 2015 18:54:56 GMT -6
On the very rare occasions that I moved the shade back, I didn't hear any difference in noise between the shade open & closed.
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Post by schlotzky on Dec 10, 2015 19:25:20 GMT -6
I just checked and I have the CF5 RPO code. So it looks like its factory.
Human, would you be able to compare the markings on your two sunroofs to the ones I posted? That's interesting that two of the same car would have such varying degrees of road noise coning from the sunroof.
It just doesn't seem right for a Buick which is why I think there's something fishy.
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Post by human on Dec 11, 2015 10:58:04 GMT -6
No way to check the '98. I haven't owned it since 2009 when It was totaled and I let the insurance company take it. I have no idea of its fate after that. I bought the '95 three years later to replace it and in some ways wish I hadn't. One thing I can say with certainty is that '98 was all around a much tighter car than my '95 is. Of course, the '95 is now 21 years old (manufactured in December 1994) and the '98 was nine years old when I bought it and eleven years old when it was wrecked, so the one I have now is twice as old as the other one was when I owned it.
Daily Driver: 2011 Impala LT Weekend Toy: 1995 Aurora
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Post by schlotzky on Dec 15, 2015 13:18:14 GMT -6
Maybe you and someone with a '98 or '99 Aurora could chime in and post up what the markings on their glass or verify if they match the ones I posted?
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Post by schlotzky on Jan 3, 2016 21:07:15 GMT -6
Could I get someone with a classic with a moonroof to post the markings on their sunroof glass? Preferably a 98/99. I'm still trying to chase this down.
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