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Post by tigger on Feb 14, 2017 21:32:22 GMT -6
Mrs. Tigger reported that the tach, speedo, temp gauge, fuel gauge, and odometer all at once died on her trip home from work tonight. I go out and start the car, everything worked. Shut it down and restarted just to see... no tach, no speedo. Definitely intermittent.
I'll pull out the manuals and check fuses, wiring, and grounds in the morning. But, has anyone ever had/heard of this?
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 15, 2017 7:11:38 GMT -6
Do you have After marker radio or Original . ?
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Post by Marc on Feb 15, 2017 14:14:54 GMT -6
My guess....bad ground.
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Post by mrn65 on Feb 15, 2017 19:28:13 GMT -6
Mrs. Tigger reported that the tach, speedo, temp gauge, fuel gauge, and odometer all at once died on her trip home from work tonight. I go out and start the car, everything worked. Shut it down and restarted just to see... no tach, no speedo. Definitely intermittent. I'll pull out the manuals and check fuses, wiring, and grounds in the morning. But, has anyone ever had/heard of this? I have sort of the same issue....only with mine, it's just the tach. i can knock on the dash in front of the tach and it will jump, & sometimes it will work till the next bump. |
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Post by tigger on Feb 16, 2017 0:04:30 GMT -6
Thanks for the input guys...
Paul, it still has the stock radio. Is there some connection between the two that I'm unaware of?
MRN65, that sounds more like an internal issue with the cluster. Like a cold solder joint for the tach on the PCB.
Marc, that's what I was thinking as well. Found something in the wiring diagrams that has almost convinced me that is not the case.
Didn't have a lot of time to do physical inspections today, it rained all morning. Took that time to pull out the FSM and read wiring diagrams...
Looks like the cluster gets power from both battery and ignition voltage but uses the same ground. I'm thinking the ground is okay since the backlights and indicator lights worked when the gauges shut down. I'll have to dig a little deeper into the IGN 1 circuit, haha!
LOL, for what it's worth, no problems today... I hate intermittent crap!
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Post by mrn65 on Feb 16, 2017 13:39:08 GMT -6
How much trouble is it to take down the instrument cluster at the speedo?
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Post by tigger on Feb 16, 2017 16:11:32 GMT -6
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Post by mrn65 on Feb 16, 2017 16:57:52 GMT -6
This is beautiful guys I've been wanting to take my Dash down and fix a few lights within the gauges portion, and now that I seen this pictorial, i can as well as Check Into my Tach, it only works intermediate if I knock on the clear lens in the front of the Inst. cluster. Thanks, this is priceles
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Post by tigger on Feb 16, 2017 22:59:56 GMT -6
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Post by Paulaurora on Feb 17, 2017 7:16:38 GMT -6
Try this when cluster stops working remove your radio and see if its starts working. I had issue when i put radio from 2002-2003 to my 2001 the cluster will stop working or same thing if i put 2001 radio in 2002-2003 car not sure why .. so maybe w.e its connected to maybe there is a short in the radio.
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Post by francois on Feb 17, 2017 20:58:31 GMT -6
Power drain from lights + bad joint (high resistance) and it gets just below the threshold for a voltage regulator, maybe? BTW, on the bulbs, given they are soldered... I have one burnt. I guess not too bad considering how old the car is. But if I ever do this, I would want to do this once and for all. Any 12v white dimmable LED from a more recent vehicule can be used instead of grain of wheat glass bulbs? Francois |
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Post by tigger on Feb 18, 2017 0:32:40 GMT -6
Haha, like I said, if I have to go in, I'm replacing the whole thing, lol!
New twist;
"AIR BAG PROBLEM" on the DIC just before the tach and speedo die X3 today. Threw a CKP sensor code, no SRS codes. WTH? Gremlins?
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Post by sempar on Feb 18, 2017 17:24:26 GMT -6
tigger,
Perhaps an intermittent connection for the IPC class 2 serial data link, but the possibility exists for an intermittent communication from some other module(s). This can be a tough one if you don't have access to a Tech2 tool. Have you scanned for DTC's?
John
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Post by tigger on Feb 21, 2017 0:53:37 GMT -6
Thanks John.
No Tech 2, diag scheduled for later this week... Begrudgingly...
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Post by tigger on Mar 4, 2017 0:17:53 GMT -6
"COULD NOT REPLICATE CUSTOMER COMPLAINT"...
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Post by sall on Mar 5, 2017 9:49:37 GMT -6
"COULD NOT REPLICATE CUSTOMER COMPLAINT"... Go figure, right? |
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Post by sempar on Mar 5, 2017 21:13:45 GMT -6
I hate intermittent problems, they're always the worst to track down!
Let's hope it's cleared up by itself.
John
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Post by tigger on Mar 6, 2017 0:04:26 GMT -6
Thanks sall, sempar. Anyone got a good price for a Tech2 clone? Haha, I can "replicate" the problem two or three times a day! Until I figure it out, Torque app for everyone in the household, lol! |
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Post by Paulaurora on Mar 6, 2017 7:38:55 GMT -6
tigger did you try to remove the radio when you had this issue?
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Post by tigger on Mar 7, 2017 0:19:09 GMT -6
Yes, I did. No difference...
Haven't had the tach/speedo issue for a few days now. Newest twist is that that the starter won't engage unless you turn the key to ON, wait for a few seconds, then START. So far that works every time, if you turn the key immediately from OFF to START, you get nothing...
Starting to think all of this is ignition switch related.
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Post by sall on Mar 7, 2017 7:15:23 GMT -6
Sounds like you are on to something now.
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Post by tigger on Mar 7, 2017 21:17:01 GMT -6
^Haha, I hope so!
More weird crap today, tach and sprrdo died, then came back! That's a first.
Later in the day, engine started then immediately died when the AC compressor kicked in, restarted and same thing. Turned of the AC, it started and ran flawlessly. Voltage drop?
My head hurts...
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Post by Paulaurora on Mar 8, 2017 10:28:29 GMT -6
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Post by tigger on Apr 28, 2017 23:18:24 GMT -6
Ignition switch. Good to go now!
But yeah Paul, I was really close to bringing out the BFH...
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Post by aurorafustration on Apr 12, 2019 23:13:28 GMT -6
Can someone tell me where the ground is from the engine? To body?
02 v6
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Post by tigger on Apr 14, 2019 22:18:57 GMT -6
Just behind the alternator to just below the engine bay fuse box.
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