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Post by sall on Sept 11, 2018 20:19:49 GMT -6
I am not trying to be an ass. I am trying to provide you factual information from years of first hand experience and loads of research. I have described the optimal setup and LEDs are not it at this point for forward lighting(unless it is a projector/relfector designed around the emitter as in OEM LED projectors). In many cases LEDs are no different than dropping in an HID kit into halogen projector/reflector. Glare and less lumens on the road where they need to be. There are few applications where PnP LEDs work well but with millions of dollars of R&D behind them. Right now these are only in H11 reflectors and made by philips or osram irrc. Anyways, take it with a grain of salt if you wish. Good luck with your project.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 11, 2018 23:38:26 GMT -6
All I did was put LED bulbs of that size lamp in. They aren’t meant to be used unless it’s foggy out (they are blinding) they just give me white light. On reverse lights, I love having LED. Makes it so much easier to see in reverse.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 12, 2018 8:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 12, 2018 9:03:16 GMT -6
I mean... they dont work any differently. The entire point of fog lamps is to make your vehicle more visible in fog. They just have the crisp white instead of ugly yellow now.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 12, 2018 9:10:39 GMT -6
Ah ok. I just have night hawks in them now. But my reverse lights big improvement, and its not just a white dot either with no throw.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 12, 2018 9:12:22 GMT -6
Yeah, same. I think I have the same bulbs in my reverse(at least it looks similar and is also JDM) and 1) it looks nicer and 2) its safer, provides light in reverse, and isnt too bright for others if you dont engage it while they are directly behind you. If you wait to put it in R until they are out of the way it is very doable.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 12, 2018 9:18:21 GMT -6
I agree 100%! They make the car seem like a high end caddy. I got them while they where less expensive but right after i purchased them they went up to almost $20 a bulb. Insane!
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 12, 2018 10:43:51 GMT -6
Sall, you yourself were recommending HIDs to me and you just said they are no different than throwing an LED in. So basically the only difference is LED takes less energy and doesnt burn out as fast..
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Post by sall on Sept 12, 2018 14:41:43 GMT -6
Sall, you yourself were recommending HIDs to me and you just said they are no different than throwing an LED in. So basically the only difference is LED takes less energy and doesnt burn out as fast.. I recommended HIDs in a proper retrofit, not PnP HID kit. Just as I did for LEDs when used as forward lighting. |
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 12, 2018 16:52:26 GMT -6
Do you know any company that does that
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Post by sall on Sept 13, 2018 9:17:20 GMT -6
If you join the facebook group Headlight Junkies or www.hidplanet.com there is quite a reputable companies doing awesome work. awehlage is our resident 2G headlight guy. You can also attempt it yourself  |
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Post by awehlage on Sept 13, 2018 11:08:02 GMT -6
AuroraGirlFromMars - if you are looking for answers to questions let me know. sall and I have the knowledge to help you out as we have first hand experience with this specific to the Aurora. We both want to provide you with accurate information but there are laws/regulations that exist whether you decide to abide by them is totally up to you. I can say that a proper HID retrofit in your low beam projector spot and upgrade to HIR 9011 bulbs in your high beam reflectors will give you the best output while staying almost road legal and not get a “second look” from local law enforcement. Just for everyone’s piece of mind, replacing the OEM halogen projectors with OEM HID projectors is not 100% legal. However, if not done properly it will look odd and draw unwanted attention. Again, just my two cents. Take it or leave it 🙂
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 13, 2018 22:42:15 GMT -6
Why is it not legal 100%
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Post by awehlage on Sept 14, 2018 4:36:37 GMT -6
It’s not what the car was originally equipped with even though you could be using all OEM parts (projector, bulb, ballast, etc.). You are modifying the car with parts not originally installed.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 14, 2018 13:45:28 GMT -6
AuroraGirlFromMars - if you are looking for answers to questions let me know. sall and I have the knowledge to help you out as we have first hand experience with this specific to the Aurora. We both want to provide you with accurate information but there are laws/regulations that exist whether you decide to abide by them is totally up to you. I can say that a proper HID retrofit in your low beam projector spot and upgrade to HIR 9011 bulbs in your high beam reflectors will give you the best output while staying almost road legal and not get a “second look” from local law enforcement. Just for everyone’s piece of mind, replacing the OEM halogen projectors with OEM HID projectors is not 100% legal. However, if not done properly it will look odd and draw unwanted attention. Again, just my two cents. Take it or leave it 🙂 What is the best recommendation you have for the fog lamps on the car without modifying the fixture? |
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Post by awehlage on Sept 14, 2018 13:56:34 GMT -6
AuroraGirlFromMars - if you are looking for answers to questions let me know. sall and I have the knowledge to help you out as we have first hand experience with this specific to the Aurora. We both want to provide you with accurate information but there are laws/regulations that exist whether you decide to abide by them is totally up to you. I can say that a proper HID retrofit in your low beam projector spot and upgrade to HIR 9011 bulbs in your high beam reflectors will give you the best output while staying almost road legal and not get a “second look” from local law enforcement. Just for everyone’s piece of mind, replacing the OEM halogen projectors with OEM HID projectors is not 100% legal. However, if not done properly it will look odd and draw unwanted attention. Again, just my two cents. Take it or leave it 🙂 What is the best recommendation you have for the fog lamps on the car without modifying the fixture? There is not a halogen bulb that would be considered an upgrade that puts out more wattage as far as I know. That being said it would not be difficult to use a dremel and cut out the 880 bulb socket and epoxy another bulb socket of your choice in its place. It would be easy to match up the filament length by where you would epoxy the new bulb socket in. I toyed with the idea of this but found it more of a challenge and nicer to setup foglights with a projector with HID bulbs to aim more to the sides for better output. The projectors are Hella H1 because the D2S version is way overpriced. |
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 16, 2018 8:35:08 GMT -6
Dek you obviously did not read what I said. Fog Lights are NOT meant to put out light for YOU to see, they are meant to make you visible to others. So DONT use them when its not foggy, because they ARE blinding to others. An LED bulb of the regular bulb fits and works fine.
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Post by awehlage on Sept 16, 2018 8:41:40 GMT -6
Dek you obviously did not read what I said. Fog Lights are NOT meant to put out light for YOU to see, they are meant to make you visible to others. So DONT use them when its not foggy, because they ARE blinding to others. An LED bulb of the regular bulb fits and works fine. Where are you getting your information? |
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 16, 2018 8:46:12 GMT -6
The fact fog lamps are not aimed they are meant to be visible in fog. They are low and shoot light kinda everywhere for a reason. You can even look up laws on the subject, they shouldnt be used during daylight or visible nights because it can blind drivers. Thats what it is meant to do(not blind but be seen, which requires it be kinda blinding.) The EU bans them during night I know for sure(unless its fog). and trying to deliberetly increase its light output or aim them up is just asking for blinding drivers, accidents, and potentially tickets. I mean if they chose to do that, that is their business but I cannot recommend it.
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Post by sall on Sept 16, 2018 11:39:24 GMT -6
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Post by awehlage on Sept 16, 2018 12:00:17 GMT -6
The fact fog lamps are not aimed they are meant to be visible in fog. They are low and shoot light kinda everywhere for a reason. You can even look up laws on the subject, they shouldnt be used during daylight or visible nights because it can blind drivers. Thats what it is meant to do(not blind but be seen, which requires it be kinda blinding.) The EU bans them during night I know for sure(unless its fog). and trying to deliberetly increase its light output or aim them up is just asking for blinding drivers, accidents, and potentially tickets. I mean if they chose to do that, that is their business but I cannot recommend it. You can aim foglights and specifically speaking you can aim the 2G Aurora foglights. Who said aim them up? |
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 16, 2018 16:48:27 GMT -6
The article kinda explains what I was saying, just to a different extent.
"Of course, it must also be understood that all lamp performance standards specify a minimum acceptable performance. Extremely high-performing fog lamps are quite rare, but they do exist. And under abnormal driving conditions (very thick fog, very heavy snow) they can be of some help. That's the key point: fog lamps are meant to be used in heavy fog, rain, or snow to help the driver see the edges of the road close to the car so s/he can safely make progress through foul weather at very low speeds. That is all these lamps are designed, intended, and able to do, and most of the ones available as factory or optional equipment or in the aftermarket aren't even capable of doing that. And as explicated in dense scientific detail in this study(pdf), it just doesn't make anything better—though there is the potential for a real safety improvement by using a red rear fog lamp."
Also, I didnt know ours could be aimed. Im curious as to how now because I was pretty sure the housing was just stuck in place on our 2Gs. Anyway, front visibility in heavy fog and rain and rear safety for people behind us in said conditions.
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Post by awehlage on Sept 16, 2018 16:52:01 GMT -6
Adjustment screw circled in red.  |
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 16, 2018 16:58:37 GMT -6
TIL all up in here hahaha
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 17, 2018 11:52:07 GMT -6
Yep i adjusted my drivers side recently it was pointed up but mine was seized so i jammed a washer in there between teh screw head and the plastic that was almost perfect aiming since I couldn't turn the screw.
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Post by thezeke on Sept 17, 2018 15:55:49 GMT -6
When I had halogen bulbs, my DRL worked. With LED, they do not work. Does anyone know why this happens? I've only tried one brand of LED so I don't personally know if it would work with a different set. So how does the circuit work, does it send a signal on the same wire or a different wire, etc.? I'm willing to bet the computer knows the running lights are on by the amount of power they drain. Since LED's use a lot less power they current usage is much lower and it might think they are off. I'm not sure but you could use a resistor to bridge the wires to increase the current draw when they are on but that might also decrease the brightness of the lights since the current would be going through both the LEDs and the resistor in parallel. |
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