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Post by anusemoon on Sept 28, 2004 20:28:30 GMT -6
Does the check engine light come on on the information center... not the dash by the speedometer? if so in what situation??
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Post by JimW on Sept 28, 2004 20:56:14 GMT -6
the SES light on the money bar (over the dash) comes on at a sensor failure.
At least that is my understanding
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Post by omegaic on Sept 28, 2004 21:43:10 GMT -6
The DIC will really only show something that requires immediate attention such as Engine Hot, turn off car. Or other things more easily fixed such as change oil soon or low washer fluid. The SES light comes on for a myriad of reasons from a loose fuel cap to a disconnected MAF sensor. There are so many things that can fail on these cars that it is simply easier to look up the DTC.
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scottydl
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Post by scottydl on Sept 29, 2004 8:32:26 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I've seen those words light up on my Aurora: "Service Engine Soon" The light is actually fairly difficult to see in the daytime, and it's all the way on the right side of the "money bar"... as opposed to being in the middle where it would be noticed right away. There is also no chime tied in with it, as is the case with the various DIC notifications. All that being said, I wish it WAS located/activated on the DIC!
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Post by kobalt on Sept 29, 2004 9:06:39 GMT -6
It would be nice if the DIC produced the OBDII code reading - The DIYers would not have to get scanners to figure out what's up
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Post by scottydl on Sept 29, 2004 9:09:00 GMT -6
Yeah, but then the dealers would lose out on the $50 "computer diagnosis" fee that they can charge people who don't know any better.
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Post by dred98 on Sept 29, 2004 9:09:49 GMT -6
It would be nice if the DIC produced the OBDII code reading - The DIYers would not have to get scanners to figure out what's up Sounds like a good idea - GM probably figured that it would take money away from the dealers though.
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Post by scottydl on Sept 29, 2004 9:33:19 GMT -6
On my old Dodge Avenger (and on many other Chryslers I believe), there was a backdoor way to retrieve stored codes when the "check engine" light came on. All I had to do was quickly turn the ignition key on-off-on-off-on, then wait... the light would deliver a series of flashes and pauses, to give you the stored numerical code.
Anyone know if GM ever built this feature into any of their vehicles?
(Sorry, I know this is getting a little off the original topic...)
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Post by Amanda on Sept 29, 2004 9:47:07 GMT -6
I would definitely have to say the purchase of our OBD II scanner was probably the best decision ever! (10 points Joe, LoL)
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Post by dred98 on Sept 29, 2004 10:11:35 GMT -6
Anyone know if GM ever built this feature into any of their vehicles? Cadillacs with the 4.6 Northstar have it - I don't know if it's all models though. You use a combination of buttons and read the codes through the climate controls.
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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 29, 2004 10:45:42 GMT -6
Yes Howard, I saw that as well. I didn't get around to actually checking it, but as I remember we don't have the same command buttons on our climate control. This doesn't mean there isn't a back door for the Aurora. I would think it very likely that there is as we have the trip computer and the climate control similar to the Caddy. Also I believe the Caddy back door is only for one type of code.
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Moe2244
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Post by Moe2244 on Oct 26, 2004 0:14:22 GMT -6
How much would a good code reader computer cost, like the hand held ones some of the dealers have?
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Flybrian
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Post by Flybrian on Oct 26, 2004 1:13:12 GMT -6
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Post by omegaic on Oct 26, 2004 1:30:11 GMT -6
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Post by rocketman on Oct 26, 2004 17:44:56 GMT -6
Some of the older GM models would post the codes much like Chrysler products when you used a paper clip or equivilant to connect two terminals on the connecter under the sterring wheel, mounted to the bottom of the dash. I believe it was the 1st and fourth of the five connectors when looking from left to right but that's just memory. I know the 80's GM cars had this but I'm not sure when it ended.
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Post by JimW on Oct 26, 2004 20:28:29 GMT -6
You are refering to OBD1 computer systems, 1995/1996 was the last year for that...now its OBD2 and the paper clip dont work no more...no you need a multi pin connector with yer scan tool. I call it, my Oldsmobile parrallel port
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