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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 12:57:30 GMT -6
Hello everyone. I am posting here to inform you that the auroraclubna.com URL may not work correctly for a short time in the near future. Please set your bookmarks to point directly to the forum for the time being to prevent problems. ( aurorah.proboards47.comAllow me to explain. Today I learned the contact with my current website host is set to expire. So I decided to upgrade my account. With this I get a number of free URLs, lots more webspace, more bandwidth and more features. With all of this new stuff I decided to put it to good use and I contacted JimW with an offer to register the domain (url) for free. I have also offered to host a website and a forum for the club. As of right now we are just starting with the domain registation. When it is all said and done my hosting company will be pointing the domain at this forum just as it is right now. No changes will be made in that respect as of right now. You may ask why mess with it? Well hosting a domain costs money. In this case I can do it for free with the hosting package I was going to buy anyway. Currently this forum is hosted by Proboards. They show ads and therefore provide us with a forum. However, this is quite limited in what we can do with it. I am going to setup ACNA beta forum v3.0 in the next few days for testing. If all goes well we may switch or we may stay here. Currently there are no plans for when/if it will be changed. The new forum will have additional features such as file uploading. This will make it easier for members to put pictures on the forum. Switching to my host also has the added benifit of email addresses. I will have a total of 500 email addresses to do whatever I like with. This means anyone that wants an @auroraclubna.com email address will be more then welcome to it. Some of you will remember us trying this in the past. The company shut us down for putting a strain on their resorces. I can assure you this will not happen with 1and1 ( www.1and1.com) 1and1 is a professional level hosting company. If we can put a strain on their 18,000 MBit external Carrier Class Connection then something is very wrong. I will be more then happy to answer any questions. Mike
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Post by BuccaneersFan on Nov 21, 2005 13:15:14 GMT -6
Sounds good Mike.
What kind of bandwidth do you have? And doesn't everything that's sent and received from the e-mail accounts, count against the bandwidth?
I think the other place claimed that we were using up all of the server resources, not necessary their bandwidth, that's absolutely ridiculous if you ask me.
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 13:18:16 GMT -6
My current package offers the following: 5 gigs of storage space 250 gigs of bandwidth monthly Email accounts do not count against me.
It should also be noted that I can upgrade my account at anytime should I start running out of either storage space or bandwidth.
Also all current admins will be allowed full FTP access to any future website or forum. All current forum admins will also remain as such. I haven't the time or interest to take over the show.
Mike
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Nov 21, 2005 13:23:52 GMT -6
Oh no, not again. Didn't we just go through this mess a few months ago?
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 13:28:15 GMT -6
That is a yes and no answer. A few months ago we switched to a different host for the forum. The hosting company crumbled under the awesome power that is the Aurora. Right now the only thing that is being changed is the company that registers the domain. Once it is completed the end user will not be able to even tell anything happened. Should it be decided to move to a different forum it will be on a trial basis at first. Best to take it easy so we don't have the same problems as before.
Mike
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Nov 21, 2005 13:30:43 GMT -6
OK, but didn't this get voted on by the members first, before anything was done? Seems the input of the community needs to be put in place first. A lot of members here never even knew of the change to V2 or some started there and lost us. I'm all for improvement But, let's keep everyone informed and "On board" if it is done.
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 13:38:35 GMT -6
Indeed as of right now the only thing going on is the auroraclubna.com url is being re-registered. This had to be done anyway. In this case I did it. All other changes are POSSIBLE things that COULD be done in the future. In any case even if the re-registeration is the only thing we end up doing I will still be able to offer free email addresses. Most likely you will not even notice the change. It is possible that it will be switched seemlessly. But hickups are possible.
The reason it was not put to a vote is simple. There was no time. Jim had to decide weather to re-register with the current company again or accept my offer. I don't know how much time we had but I am guessing it wasn't much if Jim decided to go ahead right away.
Mike
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Post by Aurora40 on Nov 21, 2005 13:41:25 GMT -6
If we can put a strain on their 18,000 MBit external Carrier Class Connection then something is very wrong. Our problem with canaca.com was not that we used too much bandwidth. We used a fraction of a percent of our quota. What they said was we used too much host resource, cpu and memory. A forum requires more than just bandwidth, there is db searching and whatnot on the back end. This is what they complained about. I wasn't aware our domain name was expiring. I had just paid for a year of url redirection with it a few months back... It also occurred to me something like "www.auroraforums.com" would probably get more hits than "www.auroraclubna.com" would.
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Nov 21, 2005 13:43:37 GMT -6
Indeed as of right now the only thing going on is the auroraclubna.com url is being re-registered. This had to be done anyway. In this case I did it. All other changes are POSSIBLE things that COULD be done in the future. In any case even if the re-registeration is the only thing we end up doing I will still be able to offer free email addresses. Most likely you will not even notice the change. It is possible that it will be switched seemlessly. But hickups are possible. The reason it was not put to a vote is simple. There was no time. Jim had to decide weather to re-register with the current company again or accept my offer. I don't know how much time we had but I am guessing it wasn't much if Jim decided to go ahead right away. Mike OK, this is a sure recipe for total DISASTER. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Post by Aurora40 on Nov 21, 2005 13:45:58 GMT -6
OK, this is a sure recipe for total DISASTER. Dumb, dumb, dumb. The worst that would happen is you can't go to "www.auroraclubna.com" and will have to go to "aurorah.proboards47.com" instead.
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 13:46:08 GMT -6
Auroraforums.com is currently unregistered and I would be more then happy to register that for the club as well. This will be more then my allowed free domains but I would be happy to pay to have it registered as well.
Mike
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Post by JimW on Nov 21, 2005 13:46:49 GMT -6
The domain was purchased in early DEC '04, we need to re-register the DOMAIN ONLY, not the server or forum host.
Mike approached me about offering a domain, I asked him to post this thread to get feedback. I do not mind him offering a domain host (sorry if I get the terms wrong)
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Nov 21, 2005 13:48:41 GMT -6
Ok, are we talking a restart like V2 was ?
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Post by JimW on Nov 21, 2005 13:49:30 GMT -6
NO.
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Nov 21, 2005 13:50:31 GMT -6
OK, now that is GOOD NEWS :-)
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 14:00:20 GMT -6
If we can put a strain on their 18,000 MBit external Carrier Class Connection then something is very wrong. Our problem with canaca.com was not that we used too much bandwidth. We used a fraction of a percent of our quota. What they said was we used too much host resource, cpu and memory. A forum requires more than just bandwidth, there is db searching and whatnot on the back end. This is what they complained about. This is why I suggest when/if we setup a new forum it is on a trail basis at first. We can have it setup for as long as we like to work out all of the bugs while this one is still the main forum. In that case should my host fail to support the awesome power that is the Aurora there will not be the kind of problems we had last time. Mike
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Post by stevensolds on Nov 21, 2005 14:26:42 GMT -6
Sounds like a good idea mike. Dont even get started with canaca, they ripped us off plain and simple. False advertised everything as well.
Although i have a ton of space and bandwidth that i wont use for a while, i hope this situation will hold out.
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 14:32:11 GMT -6
I have been with 1and1 for 3 years now. They have yet to piss me off and that is saying something. As of right now I am not interested in having anything to do with any other hosting company. As long as 1and1 doesn't anger me I think everything will be fine.
Mike
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Post by SupaStealth on Nov 21, 2005 16:03:51 GMT -6
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 16:06:26 GMT -6
I have admined a large forum with 1and1 in the past. We never had any problems with them. By large I mean over 100 users a day. Most checking several times a day. If I remember some rules I read a while back I am limited to 100% CPU usage for up to 20 seconds at a time before I start getting warnings. That might not sound like alot but we are dealing with server processors and fairly simple script. If a forum is using that kind of resources then something is set incorrectly.
Mike
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 16:10:35 GMT -6
auroraforums.com is now registered for our use. It will be ready for use in less then 12 hours.
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Post by BuccaneersFan on Nov 21, 2005 16:26:43 GMT -6
auroraforums.com is now registered for our use. It will be ready for use in less then 12 hours. So are we going to keep both domains and have them redirected to here?
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 16:42:46 GMT -6
Correct, two is better then one after all.
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Post by BuccaneersFan on Nov 21, 2005 16:51:25 GMT -6
Sure is.
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Post by BuccaneersFan on Nov 21, 2005 16:57:53 GMT -6
I see you get 100 free subdomains so if you make a new forum while were testing it out you could put it on a subdomain of www.auroraforums.com such as forum2.auroraforums.com.
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 17:04:30 GMT -6
That would be no problem at all. I was thinking about doing something just like that. If it went well then I would just point the domains at the new forum. Or the domains could be pointed at a new website I could build. I was thinking about something like what I did at www.zarkrow.com At Zarkrow I am a clan leader / forum, website, and game server admin. A also made the Flash intro to zarkrow.com It wouldn't be difficult to make one for the ACNA. I want to make something crystal clear. I am going to setup a new beta forum for the ACNA. This will be for testing purposes until it is taken to a vote. Should the vote be in favor of the new forum then links will be changed and people will be redirected. If it is not in favor this will remain the forum for the ACNA. Mike
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Post by JimW on Nov 21, 2005 17:41:20 GMT -6
Very good so far, however there are a few items I wish to be addressed before anything goes ahead. 1. Minimize any site downtime. None would be best. 2. URL changes aside, we are used to www.auroraclubna.com despite any dislike for it, its in place, if www.auroraforums.com is preferred, both must re-direct to the Proboards page. 3. The beta forum is just that...beta forum, Mike please leave it offline for public use, until we decide what to do. 4. All shifts must be seemless. I will be contacting our current domain host and I will not re-register for another year. Lets not implement the new URL until I send that email, I will post a timeline. Thats all I got for now.
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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2005 17:52:16 GMT -6
Ok, are we talking a restart like V2 was ? OK, now that is GOOD NEWS :-) You can say that again!!!
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Post by Superdemon on Nov 21, 2005 17:57:34 GMT -6
1. Downtime can be dropped to about 12 hours. That is the minimum amount of time to register a domain with DNS servers.
2. When Auroraforums.com comes online it will point to Proboards.
3. The beta forum will be public... kinda. I say that because it will be difficult to get to. If you know the URL then you would be able to join and use it but good luck figuring it out without a easy domain like auroraforums.com pointing to it.
4. Shifts will be made as seemless as possible on my end. I don't forsee any major problems. Worse case the Auroraclubna.com URL is down for 24 hours. By then though the auroraforums.com URL will be up and running. So we will have options.
Mike
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Post by JimW on Nov 21, 2005 19:28:14 GMT -6
I'm very satisfied Thanks Mike.
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