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Post by okidedrak on May 16, 2011 15:10:22 GMT -6
Looking for info about possible transmission interchange with newer model from newer production cars with same model transmission, like Pontiac Grand prix, Impala, Lacrosse etc
Anyone with experience have info to share?
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Post by robaurora01 on May 16, 2011 17:40:07 GMT -6
best bet, call a tranny shop and ask them
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Post by ntrenn on May 16, 2011 21:25:50 GMT -6
Your transmission is an M76, I think. The Intrigue used an MN3 - possibly just a transfer ratio difference to get there, but the LX5 is listed as having a larger TC than the M76.
If you go newer - 2003+ used the hardened 4th gear hub in them all, not just the HD version.
You can get just about any 4T65 to work, just a matter of the transfer gear set and computer programming once you have the right TC match.
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Post by okidedrak on May 16, 2011 22:52:00 GMT -6
The trannys in Auroras are MN3 actually and you have to keep the converter.
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Post by ntrenn on May 17, 2011 15:37:59 GMT -6
So you LX5 guys in the Aurora run about 1700 rpm at 60 mph? That's about what the MN3 in the Intrigue runs.
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Post by robaurora01 on May 17, 2011 16:40:22 GMT -6
110 km/h which is 70 mph runs at 1800 in the 3.5L
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Post by tipsymcstager on May 17, 2011 17:25:02 GMT -6
4T65-E
The 4T65-E was introduced to replace the 4T60-E in 1997. The 4T65-E included a larger 258 mm torque converter for some models and many other changes to improve reliability. It is able to handle vehicles up to 6500 lb (2948 kg) GVWR with up to 280 ft·lbf (380 N·m) of torque. A number of final drive ratios are available, with many distinct models. Starting in mid year 2000 models, all 4T65-E models received an upgraded valve body. Starting in 2003 the internal electronics were changed, hardened 4th gear shaft, ratcheting sprags for input and 3rd gear were added.
Models:
M15 — 245 mm (9.6 in) torque converter
MN3 — 258 mm (10.2 in) torque converter
MN7 — 258 mm (10.2 in) torque converter and heavy-duty gearbox (see 4T65E-HD)
MD7 — 245 mm (9.6 in) torque converter (Chinese version)
M76 — 245 mm (9.6 in) torque converter
Applications:
M15
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.4 DOHC V6
1997–2003 Chevrolet Lumina/Monte Carlo V6 3.4 L/3.8 L
1997–2003 Chevrolet Venture V6 3.4 L
2000–2003 Chevrolet Impala V6 3.4 L/3.8 L
1997–2001 Chevrolet Lumina/Monte Carlo V6 3.1 L
1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue V6 3.8 L
1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix V6 3.1 L/3.8 L
2004 Pontiac Grand Prix V6 3.8 L
2006-2007 Chevrolet Malibu (SS Models) V6 3.9 L
3.29:1 M15
Buick Terraza
Chevrolet Uplander
Pontiac Montana SV6
Saturn Relay
3.29:1 M76
Buick Rendezvous
Chevrolet Impala 9C1
Oldsmobile Aurora V6 (ID's DBC/ DDB/ DGB)
Oldsmobile Intrigue Autobahn Package/PCS (ID FR9)
Oldsmobile Silhouette
Pontiac Aztek
2.86:1 or 3.05:1 M15
Buick LeSabre
Chevrolet Impala LA1
Chevrolet Monte Carlo LA1
3.05:1 MN3
1997-2004 Buick Regal V6 3.8 L LS/LSE
1997-2005 Buick Park Avenue V6 3.8 L
1999-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue V6 3.5 L (ID F83)
2.92:1 M15
Buick LaCrosse
Pontiac Bonneville
3.69:1 M76
Buick Terraza
Buick Rendezvous
Chevrolet Uplander
Pontiac Aztek
Pontiac Montana SV6
Saturn Relay
4T65E-HDThe 4T65E-HD (code MN7) is a heavy duty version of the 4T65-E used with more powerful engines such as the LS4 V8 and L67/L32 supercharged V6.
Applications:
2.93:1 MN7
Pontiac Bonneville SSEi L67
Chevrolet Impala L67
Chevrolet Monte Carlo L67
Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Buick Regal GS
Buick Riviera L67 (97-99)
3.05:1 MN7
Buick Park Avenue Ultra
3.06:1 MN7
Chevrolet Impala SS
Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
3.29:1 MN7
Buick Regal GSX (SLP)
Buick LaCrosse Super
Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Comp G
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Post by ntrenn on May 17, 2011 18:22:06 GMT -6
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Post by tipsymcstager on May 17, 2011 19:09:18 GMT -6
whats "IMS"? it said YES for the aurora and NO for the Intrigue. Oldsmobile Intrigue Autobahn Package/PCS (ID FR9) 3.29 1999-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue V6 3.5 L (ID F83) 3.05 |
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Post by okidedrak on May 24, 2011 8:35:44 GMT -6
tipsymcstager, the guy who wrote the wikipedia article from wehere you copied and pasted, is wrong. Auroras and Intrigues have MN3 not like it makes much difference anwyay. It's all in the fine specs.
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Post by tipsymcstager on May 24, 2011 14:29:49 GMT -6
tipsymcstager, the guy who wrote the wikipedia article from wehere you copied and pasted, is wrong. Auroras and Intrigues have MN3 not like it makes much difference anwyay. It's all in the fine specs. yup your right on that! i just looked at a vin brakedown of 01's (mine, and a 4.0) and came up with: 51,972 overall production. 3.5L(LX5) 37,397 MN3 TRANSMISSION FINAL DRIVE 3.29(FR9)4T65-E 37,397 4.0L,(L47) 14,575 FV4 RATIO TRANSAXLE FINAL DRIVE 3.71 3.71R(FV4) 14,575 so the math said MN3, only! i failed to fact check, that................  |
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