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Post by synthesis on Nov 21, 2013 15:34:33 GMT -6
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Nov 22, 2013 9:33:47 GMT -6
So I found a few more online (eBay) that could work.... seems as though the going price is anywhere around $200 give or take 50$. And that doesn't include the antenna which we'd still need. But yeah, other than a new VCIM unit and the digital antenna, all we have to do is create an aftermarket/modified wiring harness that will connect a VIU style connector to VCIM... then all should be glorious.... Most of the VCIMs on eBay I can't buy due to international shipping (they won't), but there are a couple i could get my hands on.... right now looking at a replacement unit for 2007-2008+ Saab 95, comes with Bluetooth.
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Post by synthesis on Nov 22, 2013 13:02:07 GMT -6
I'm hesitant for you to pull the trigger, cause if it doesn't work you'll eat the cost on it....
Do you have the dual unit OnStar system in your car? If so, you'll need to swap the short harness out with a later one. If you have the single unit, your harness *should* swap in.
If you do buy it, you'll need to take your car to someone with a Tech 2 system and have the OnStar Setup procedure done. GM dealers have a TSB that tells them to not configure OnStar on any vehicles that didn't come with it, or retrofit it.
After it is set up with your VIN and feature set, you then need to get OnStar on and tell them you upgraded your unit and have them finish the setup.
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Nov 22, 2013 14:09:16 GMT -6
Knew most of that. Didn't know id have to swap my short harness. That's OK tho. Going this route is much cheaper than getting a gm dealer to do it for 2-3 grand...... Anyway, when I have the funds to possibly throw away/around, I will buy a new short harness, vcim and antenna, then get Paul to reprogram my ish
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Post by synthesis on Nov 22, 2013 15:10:25 GMT -6
Yeah, there is a big wiring difference between the two unit harness and the single-unit harness... 03+ may have even had some differences in connectors, as I was told by Chris at CoStar that the 03+ harness ends would be needed... BUT, I suspect that the 02+ single-unit harness is actually the right harness to use. It only has two plugs.
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Nov 22, 2013 23:55:03 GMT -6
Yeah, i'm trying to find the oldest BT OnStar module, seeing as it would probably be the most compatible. so basically, any harness that was made for a single unit..... but, if i were to pull a 'short harness' from a car that had a single unit, would that 'short harness' still connect to my car (wiring)? .... i guess thats why they call this, trial and error.
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Post by synthesis on Nov 23, 2013 16:07:15 GMT -6
Found a digital unit local to me from an 06 GMC Envoy Denali... Class 2 compatible.
He wants 75 bucks for it. It doesn't do Bluetooth, but it would be a very good way to test my Digital Upgrade theory... Bluetooth would follow shortly after.
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Post by irectus on Nov 23, 2013 17:50:04 GMT -6
Yeah, they have BT upgrades. You buy the BT antenna and just plug it into vcim.
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Post by synthesis on Nov 23, 2013 18:14:04 GMT -6
Yeah, they have BT upgrades. You buy the BT antenna and just plug it into vcim. That ONLY works on a VCIM with a Bluetooth port and the integrated hardware inside the VCIM... The VCIM will have three ports. One for the cell signal, one for the GPS and one for Bluetooth... If it has Bluetooth.
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Nov 23, 2013 21:07:38 GMT -6
Sorry yeah, should have stated that. Let me know how it works out for you Can't wait for the day when you (we) call up OnStar in our 01 auroras. I can just picture it "Hi, I'd like to enable my OnStar" " sure thing, what car do you drive sir?" "2001 Oldsmobile aurora" "Wtf?!? How the $&$;$-%- ............ "
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Post by irectus on Nov 27, 2013 10:31:38 GMT -6
hey so whats the good word synthesis? I've been in touch with most of the wrecker yards around my area.... most of them say I have to haul a$$ down and pull it myself, they don't keep stuff like that in inventory.... so now I gotta haul myself down to these places with the list of cars you gave me. Only problem is, I have No Idea where/how to get to the OnStar Units in any of these cars, only auroras..... seems like Im going to need to spend a whole day or 2 in one of these junk yards...
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Post by synthesis on Nov 27, 2013 11:38:52 GMT -6
Yeah...
I have not purchased this OnStar module from the guy, as I don't know if I want to burn the funds on a non-bluetooth module... At the same time, if I do pick it up and OnStar responds to my call, there's a VERY solid chance the later Class 2 modules will work.
I haven't gone any further on this yet, as funding is an issue.
Now... Module locations vary by vehicle. One the SUVs, they tend to be back under/behind the rear seats.
Cars, either the trunk or behind the glove box. This varied by vehicle.
You'll also need to confirm the antenna connectors to make sure you get a module that supports your current antenna, otherwise you'll be picking up a roof mount antenna assembly and the cables for it.
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Post by irectus on Nov 27, 2013 11:48:43 GMT -6
if you were to get that module, you'd still need to find an antenna for it right?
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Post by synthesis on Nov 27, 2013 12:01:34 GMT -6
if you were to get that module, you'd still need to find an antenna for it right? Possibly? It has the same connectors on it as my current module, but the guy says it is a Digital module. I just don't know if my current antenna is capable of digital or not.
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Nov 27, 2013 12:46:03 GMT -6
It was my understanding that everything in our car (at least 2001 if not higher) was analog. That being the OnStar Unit, as well as antenna, and more complexly as you pointed out, the wiring systems (between single and dual unit setups).
So i figured, if we were going to swap OnStar Unit's for Digital units, we'd have to swap the unit, as well as antenna, and harness (modified) so it would communicate.
I will hopefully have the time tomorrow, if not a little later today to start digging around in a JY.
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Post by synthesis on Dec 1, 2013 22:00:05 GMT -6
I found an OnStar unit in a friend's 2008 Colorado... It is listed as being a Class 2 Serial device. It does not have BlueTooth, but I know it will connect to OnStar in his Colorado.
He wants to upgrade to the Bluestar device in his truck, so I may have a VCIM I can pull and test with.
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irectus
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Post by irectus on Dec 2, 2013 21:16:59 GMT -6
let me know how it goes. Rather not buy a unit to find out it isn't compatible....
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Post by btwnjondcy9902 on Aug 14, 2014 19:58:12 GMT -6
If I can help anyone. I can confirm, I own and have installed Costar Bluestar on my 2002 Aurora. It mutes radio and works fine. I removed OnStar unit from trunk and plugged-in two white connectors into Bluestar. It paired blackberry phone right away. I do not have it too long to recommend it but definitely it works.
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Post by Paulaurora on Aug 15, 2014 8:30:55 GMT -6
So all needs to be done unplug old on-star module and connect Costar Bluestar but will the options in mirror work or i have to add something else?
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Post by btwnjondcy9902 on Aug 15, 2014 20:34:28 GMT -6
Yes, I removed OnStar module (single unit) and plugged-in Bluestar. I did pair my phone right away. Mirror buttons works fine. I did some research before I decided to get it. On Costar website clearly Aurora was not listed but it says that when there are two white connectors attached to OnStar unit then it should work. Also I recently purchased my 2002 Aurora and I found inside previous owner's OnStar agreement dated mid 2008. In 2008 OnStar was already digital so the unit was probably upgraded. I have some pics but I am unable to attach them.
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Post by Paulaurora on Aug 15, 2014 22:31:25 GMT -6
Do you still have the Upgraded it unit that u removed ?
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Post by btwnjondcy9902 on Aug 16, 2014 1:19:25 GMT -6
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Post by btwnjondcy9902 on Aug 16, 2014 8:25:43 GMT -6
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Post by Paulaurora on Aug 18, 2014 7:59:57 GMT -6
So I I get this new madule for onstar and swap with my old one my onstar should work as digital or I have to add something else ?
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Post by guy48065 on Aug 18, 2014 10:33:17 GMT -6
Didn't know this path to bluetooth was available...too bad it's not quite there. I don't yak on the phone much while driving but I DO stream music from the internet constantly during my daily 2 X 50 min. commute. Bummer to read on their website that Onstar audio is mono and even though this replaces the Onstar module--it doesn't fix the mono limitation. Just not acceptable for $280. At $100 it would be competitive with the many other aftermarket bluetooth adapters that only handle calls.
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Post by Paulaurora on Aug 18, 2014 11:18:25 GMT -6
I am sure u can rewire so it be on all the speakers.
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Post by synthesis on Oct 27, 2014 14:31:12 GMT -6
The Onstar Stereo/Mono limitation is specific to the older vehicles. The CoStar unit is a Class2 Serial device that passes data via a single wire input to the radio. Sadly, there is no way to get bluetooth stereo audio into the system without utilizing an auxiliary type input into the radio. I don't believe the CoStar will support enabling Bluetooth audio streaming to the output and still allow the radio to stay on the Aux input without forcing the radio to switch to Phone mode. This would require programming on the part of the CoStar programmers. As for Bluetooth/OnStar in the Aurora... This DOES work. I found a module in a friend's vehicle and pulled it. I installed it into the Olds, and it picked up on the unit. Connectivity to OnStar was spotty, as I did not upgrade to the digital roof mount antenna.. I was only borrowing the unit. BUT, the radio recognized the Bluetooth function. I was not able to send calls as I don't have a dedicated phone button on the steering wheel controls or the radio. I returned the module before digging into it any further, as my curiosity was sated.
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Post by Paulaurora on Nov 10, 2014 14:47:34 GMT -6
I am confused a lil so I got the new module unit from ebay but my car is 2001 and it has 2 unit onstar and plugs are different can plugs be changed or if my car has 2 unit onstar I am screwed ? I saw picture on first page that 2 units went to 1 but how the wires were changed ?
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Post by synthesis on Nov 11, 2014 8:25:44 GMT -6
paulaurora, the two unit harness is different from the single unit harness.
The harness itself can be swapped out though. Look at the plugs for the units, follow the wires from that up to a flat rock and lock connector. Unhook that connector, replace the short harness with a single unit harness. That was what I did for mine.
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Post by Paulaurora on Nov 11, 2014 14:56:23 GMT -6
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