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Post by bravadow on Mar 30, 2014 19:12:59 GMT -6
I have replaced my dashboard, bcm, fuses, relays, and did the door jamb wiring. My dashboard gauges Don't work and the Dic as well. I am losing it with this problem. Sometimes randomly the gauges will kick on and flicker on and off. This happens rarely and doesn't last long. I am so lost. Please someone help with a miracle.
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Post by 98redaurora on Mar 30, 2014 21:18:02 GMT -6
How weird! I would just start wiggling wires. Maybe add a ground? Someone post a wiring diagram! Lol. See what exactly runs that bad boy..
Did you get any info from the previous owner?
Could it be ignition switch related?
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Post by bravadow on Mar 30, 2014 21:34:54 GMT -6
Tomorrow I planned on going through all the grounds. I was thinking about stuff and what random things it could be. Then I thought how grounds can do some of the weirdest things. So yea thats my next step tomorrow. The ignition is something I have not heard anything about yet or checked. Do you have any insight on that issue? ? I have wiggled wires from front to back of the car and no results. But you never know I still may just come across the right one to wiggle and find it.
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Post by bravadow on Mar 30, 2014 21:38:20 GMT -6
Oh and the previous owner was a hack. Ran this car into a junk car. I bought it before it was completely trashed. I pretty much used my other aurora to rebuild this one into a nice aurora again.
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Post by 98redaurora on Mar 30, 2014 22:57:10 GMT -6
I was just thinking maybe the ignition switch isn't turning that circuit on or something. You'll need a diagram. I can get one off ALLDATA through my schools internet if nobody gets to it.
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Post by 98redaurora on Mar 30, 2014 23:00:59 GMT -6
Now that I think about it though. The ignition switch probably isn't very likely, because the gauges do randomly turn on according to your previous post. Therefore, if anything grounds or a loose connection is more likely.
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Post by bravadow on Mar 30, 2014 23:10:48 GMT -6
Ok. Thanks. I am going to dig into the grounds tomorrow and check any other wiring that looks fishy. I am bound to get this solved sooner or later.
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Post by bravadow on Mar 31, 2014 15:52:14 GMT -6
So I went through and cleaned and re fastened a bunch of grounds. Rewired the door jambs. Pulled the whole dash and under apart checked all wiring. No change. I did find out that if I twist the instrument cluster everything works again. What a pain. So the conclusion is to twist the instrument cluster and it works for the most part.
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Post by 98redaurora on Mar 31, 2014 17:46:05 GMT -6
So it's a bad instrument cluster, right?
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Post by tigger on Mar 31, 2014 19:03:12 GMT -6
I did find out that if I twist the instrument cluster everything works again. Cold/bad solder joints. That can be fixed if you're semi proficient with an iron. |
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Post by bravadow on Mar 31, 2014 19:24:28 GMT -6
Both instrument clusters do it. Well similar problems anyway. I can get them both to work but they both tend to lose gauges and lights randomly
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Post by RCA1186 on Apr 1, 2014 5:57:38 GMT -6
Loose wires at the connector for the cluster maybe some of the pins are pulling loose.
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Post by bravadow on Apr 1, 2014 10:35:16 GMT -6
I have checked the connections and wires multiple times and no changes at all.
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Post by RCA1186 on Apr 1, 2014 11:26:25 GMT -6
Have you checked them with a multimeter? Perhaps a wire broken or corroded within the insulation
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Post by bobsblue95 on Apr 1, 2014 11:29:50 GMT -6
can you show exactly what you mean when you say "twist the instrument cluster"?
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Post by bravadow on Apr 1, 2014 19:01:34 GMT -6
Grab both sides and twist it just a little. I dont k ow what part to test with the multimeter. Lights go out. Gauges go out. Oil level system fault. Volt light comes on. Parking brake notification. Low brake fluid. Are all some of the things that will happen.
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Post by 98redaurora on Apr 1, 2014 20:58:15 GMT -6
Both instrument clusters do it. Well similar problems anyway. I can get them both to work but they both tend to lose gauges and lights randomly Where did you get the other cluster from? What are the chances that one could be bad too? |
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Post by bravadow on Apr 1, 2014 21:59:12 GMT -6
I bought the other from someone in a nearby city. It was out of a 1995 Aurora that had been parted out. It had been sitting for an unknown period of time. That one and my stock cluster both have problems just not exact same problems. Chances are they could both have bad solders within. I did some research on them as it is a common problem. I have changed, fixed, rewired, etc alot of things and keep coming back to the cluster.
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Post by RCA1186 on Apr 2, 2014 11:28:36 GMT -6
Have you tried cleaning the connections with some contact cleaner? Spray it in, work the plug off and on a few times. Actually solves a lot of electrical issues I've had.
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Post by bravadow on Apr 7, 2014 21:05:47 GMT -6
I took some contact cleaner to it. No changes at all. It is just a losing battle.
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Post by RCA1186 on Apr 8, 2014 5:58:58 GMT -6
Hmmmm I really can't think of much else to suggest...intermittent problems tells me it is most likely a connection issue though.
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Post by sall on Apr 8, 2014 9:12:42 GMT -6
With ignition OFF measure voltage between IP connector C1 terminal D15 and ground(chassis). Looking for 10-15v... if not have a problem. If so test this next..
Measure the voltage between terminal D15 and ground terminal pins C12 and D12 on connector C1. Again 10-15v...
FSM says if all that checks out the the IC is bad... I would wiggle the connectors around when testing and test multiple times. You will likely the find the issue here somewhere I believe. Whats the likelihood of replacing a bad cluster with a bad cluster and also your twisting motion reference.
Thoroughly check the mating connectors and make sure everything is seated properly if all checks out. It is not difficult to have a pin misaligned. Anyways HTH!
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Post by bobsblue95 on Apr 8, 2014 9:30:56 GMT -6
I bought the other from someone in a nearby city. It was out of a 1995 Aurora that had been parted out... And the car you're driving is also a 95? The 95 cluster, afaik, is not compatible with other years. |
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Post by sall on Apr 8, 2014 9:59:58 GMT -6
I bought the other from someone in a nearby city. It was out of a 1995 Aurora that had been parted out... And the car you're driving is also a 95? The 95 cluster, afaik, is not compatible with other years. Yeah. I made for certain in another thread he was using a '95 Cluster and DIC. |
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Post by bravadow on Apr 8, 2014 12:05:16 GMT -6
Sall I will probably get time to check those connections within the next couple days. I appreciate the insight on it. Guess we will see what chaos is to come next. ...
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Post by bravadow on Apr 8, 2014 21:13:33 GMT -6
A little more info for ya. I have disassembled the cluster and behind it, upper and lower dash for easier access to work on the cluster and look for bad connections or wires. I have worked the connections on and off, cleaned them, wiggled wires, andmade sure that I ddidn't pull any out or break any connections/wires. THE ONE thing that still gets me though is; When I start my car with the headlights/running lights OFF my gauges normally don't work. If I turn my lights on and start the car the gauges normally work. It will also give me an OIL LEVEL SYSTEM FAULT when I start it up without the lights on, but not every time
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Post by bravadow on Apr 16, 2014 18:14:16 GMT -6
With ignition OFF measure voltage between IP connector C1 terminal D15 and ground(chassis). Looking for 10-15v... if not have a problem. If so test this next.. Measure the voltage between terminal D15 and ground terminal pins C12 and D12 on connector C1. Again 10-15v... FSM says if all that checks out the the IC is bad... I would wiggle the connectors around when testing and test multiple times. You will likely the find the issue here somewhere I believe. Whats the likelihood of replacing a bad cluster with a bad cluster and also your twisting motion reference. Thoroughly check the mating connectors and make sure everything is seated properly if all checks out. It is not difficult to have a pin misaligned. Anyways HTH! I tested everything out and got the correct voltage. I am lost on what the deal is. I am pretty sure i tested it all correctly. |
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