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Post by oldsvairman on May 1, 2016 12:25:41 GMT -6
Does any one know if the 95-96 front spring 22132791 will work with 98-99 front struts in place of the 22197216 spring? The early spring is 1 1/2" inches shorter and has a slightly higher spring rate. thanks.
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Post by sall on May 1, 2016 19:41:54 GMT -6
They will not to my knowledge. The 97+ coil springs have two pigtail ends. The 95-96 has one tangential and one pigtail. So the insulators and seats are different as well. The actual struts also differ in length other than the differences in coil spring free and install height. As well as spring rate as you mentioned.
Free height/installed height/inner diameter/bar diameter/spring rate/load
97+ 13.93 7 6.3 0.64 173 1200
95-96: 14.5 7.5 5.65 0.6 160 1121
What is your goal here?
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Post by oldsvairman on May 10, 2016 14:47:06 GMT -6
Thank You Sail for your wisdom.
I am getting things together to do a Bonneville GXP brake swap on my '95 and am researching which springs to go with. Probably have lowering springs wound. Any other interest out there??!!! The only struts I've found that say they will work with lowering springs is KYB.
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Post by sall on May 11, 2016 6:33:46 GMT -6
Yeah I have front end upgrade for my '96 waiting in the wings for about a year now. Call me lazy. I am using a '97 KYB strut(I don't feel notching twoer for 98+), 97+ knuckle, etc with Lucerne V8 setup. Powder coated matte black and all. Also rebuilt control arms with poly bushings. So more than just brakes upgraded. Not sure if you found something to bolt onto the '95-'96, custom bracket or doing the same. At least there is someone else willing do it on '95-96 too haha. Lucerne V8: Aluminum Knuckle: Deville(IIRC) Rears with Larger Brackets: Rebuilt Control Arms: I am sure there is interest but no one here will pay for the springs lol. The Riviera crowd would probably though. I have a set of springs coming to lower the front with new setup, but again I haven't found the down time or desire on the same weekend yet .
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Post by oldsvairman on May 12, 2016 15:03:45 GMT -6
Thank You for the inspirational photos. The powder coat finish is an awesome touch. I have front control arms to rebuild. Where did you find poly bushings to fit the front? Have rear arms coming. New bushings and new wheel bearings all around. Do you know of any poly bushings available that would fit the rear arms? Will use late aluminum knuckles. Already have Caddy front calipers. Strongly favoring 235-50-18 on 18x8. Very close to original 235-60-16 dimentions.
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Post by sall on May 13, 2016 7:43:11 GMT -6
I would be hesitant to recommend what I used for the control arm bushings until they have been tested thoroughly. The front horizontal especially as it requires a sleeve to mimic the OEM bushing. I wanted poly so made it happen. There might be another bushing out there that could work better. At the time this is what I could find though. If it is any consolation I plan to start the project at the beginning of next month.
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Post by oldsvairman on May 13, 2016 21:03:19 GMT -6
See what you mean. Gotta hand it to you for the gettin' after it to piece part together poly bushings. Might just stick with AC Delco Pro bushings front and rear. Have to be better than 20 yr old originals. I remember back in my Corvair days. Had a buddy machine a set of rear strut arm bushings. The USN never missed 6" of 2" od Teflon rod stock. Worked great. Appreciate the tip about '97 struts. Don't mind the notching, but it is one less step to do. Briefly considered a Lucerne subframe swap but don't have the lift to accomplish it. Wondering if the Lucerne steering rack could be fit to the '95 subframe. Latest incarnation of G body Magnasteer. Now to tackle adjustment of the rear height sensor -1.5"
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