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Post by nikos on Oct 2, 2005 1:39:47 GMT -6
hi i just noticed in my steering when u turn the wheel one way or the other,there is a weird feeling in the steering like a clicking or creaking,kind of hard to explain u can feel it in your hands as u turn. u cant really here it.sounds like it could be suspension related or?? anyone had this problem thanx??it just started out of nowhere...
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Post by Marc on Oct 2, 2005 8:09:59 GMT -6
It might be the rack & pinion.
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Post by Custom88 on Oct 2, 2005 9:06:22 GMT -6
is it like a sort of pop as you turn the wheel? If so, it's your intermediate steering shaft. It's common and all 2001+ auroras will eventually have this problem. When it gets worse, you'll have to take it to the dealer.  |
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Post by BNICOV on Oct 3, 2005 8:56:13 GMT -6
It's the Intermediate Steering Shaft, the dealers know all about it and will lube it for you for a 'nominal' charge. I think it's about 60 bucks or so. The permanent fix is to replace it and that will run you somewhere around 300-400 bucks.
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Post by nikos on Oct 3, 2005 12:22:26 GMT -6
hi thanx custom88 and bnocov , you are both correct the intermediate shaft is being replaced as i speak to yas,at $450,funny thing is it was done at 66,000 klm. and now again at 105,000 klm.this is rediculous for a luxery car of this to happen so early and so expensive!!!!
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Post by Wacko on Oct 4, 2005 8:36:02 GMT -6
I believe my 2001 has this problem as well. Anyone have an opinion on whether the lubrication is a do-it-yourself job for someone who has, say done brake jobs, replaced alternators, starters, batteries, etc?
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Post by kobalt on Oct 4, 2005 9:10:30 GMT -6
It is a DIY job to lube the ISS but replacing one... In any case, many repair shops are aware of the GM ISS problem and will lube it for you for much less than a dealership would.
Most here will agree that the unit is incorrectly designed. I however think that this was a carefully designed part that usually soon after the warranty expires.
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Post by Sterling4.0 on Oct 14, 2005 17:20:39 GMT -6
I'm currently having the same issues with my 01. We took it to a repair shop and said that it was my left front hub assembly that was going out. I changed it myself using aftermarket an assembly ($85 vs. $200). Funny thing is that now there is a loud clicking in the wheel when you turn it in either direction. I took it to the shop on Thursday and they said I had a defective hub assembly. Great, so I went back to the auto parts store and got a new one. After putting the new one on to replace the so called defective part, it does the same thing. It almost sounds like there is a piece of metal flicking against the inside of the wheel, but you can't see anything down there. The steering is much smoother than before, so maybe the hub was bad, but the aftermarket parts seemed to create a new problem. Any ideas out there?
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Post by Wacko on Oct 16, 2005 19:31:36 GMT -6
I have heard that some of the cheaper hub/bearing assemblies are...well...cheaper. It could well be that the part was defective out of the box. What torque was applied to the axle nut when you replaced it?
A simple test to check the bearings is to jack up the front tire under the control arm so that the tire is off the ground. Support the car with jack stands for safety. Grab the front tire at 12 and 6 o'clock and try to move the top and bottom of the wheel toward/away from you. If you feel play, the hub/bearing is likely worn or damaged. But this can also indicate worn ball joints.
If you do this same procedure at 9 and 3 o'clock and feel play, tie rod ends could require replacement.
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Post by vojtazbrna on Nov 12, 2005 9:16:04 GMT -6
is it possible that a classic would develop this kinda problem with the ISS? I have pretty much the same problem as described up here. when i turn the wheel it's kinda shimmy. feels like it's getting worse. not much sound heard. only thing i hear is a deep creaking sound, but sounds like it's coming from the steering wheel or the tilt assembly. also, when i jacked up the car and did that little test with the wheels I could feel some play at the 12 and 6 o'clock position on both front wheels. rear ones are dead tight. i had a guy look at it two weeks ago and he said that everything down there seemed tight and ok. but i could definitelly feel the wheels move.
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Post by Wacko on Nov 15, 2005 19:00:36 GMT -6
I have a 2001 Service Manual and there are no less than 75 pages dedicated soley to vibration diagnosis and correction. So there is quite a bit more there than can be covered here. But I can tell you that the 12 and 6 o'clock test should not deflect the wheel more than 0.005 inches. That's not much. If you don't have a dial indicator to get that measurement, then if you can see movement then replace the hub.
As far as the deep creaking sound, if it happens at low or no speed, I would consider the ISS. However, some folks with the classic have narrowed this type of symptom down to the front strut bearings, if I'm not mistaken.
Hope that helps.
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Post by vojtazbrna on Nov 18, 2005 7:55:57 GMT -6
thanks for the help!
i was at my mech's yesterday and we checked the play in the wheels again. i didn't SEE any movement and he said that you can feel it, but it's so tiny that he wouldn't change the wheel bearings. it could be very normal like this.
that creaking sound in deed sounds like coming from the strut bearings. how can i check on that to see if they're bad or something?
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