50 roll against a STS

[lanceslambos]

my best friend karl was driving home last night when his motor blew in his truck so i just took him to his brother in laws car lot and he drove away in a black on black '93 caddy sts with 160,xxx miles. it has minimal problems at the moment. a single hail dent on the roof, a shopping cart dent in one fender and a scratch on another one. the console is half gone too. but besides those things this is a sharp car. we followed each other on the way back to town and did a few 50 - ? rolls. oh and that's when he found out his horn fuse was blown too ;D
i knew he would get me but the question in my mind was - how bad? the first time was a flop and we came up on traffic too fast. we backed off to 55 for a while and let all the rush-homers get by then we did it again. this time was more like it.

starting from approx. 55 mph, i watched him slowly pull away. at around 65 i was looking at his rear door. at 70 i was looking at his rear tire. at 80 my headlights were still stuck on his bumper. between 90 - 100 he cleared me for a second then it was over. he said the front started shaking.

saturday he's having a garage sale and we are gonna detail the crap out of it. i was gonna get some pics a minute ago but he had to get home to show the tow truck where his truck was.
he wants to come out & meet us at the track in October.

from what i understand the 4.6 in his car is rated at 295 hp @ 6000 rpm & 290 ft/lb @ 4400 rpm so a hopped up 4.0 is gonna be close in hp & torque but the 4.6 gets its torque at a much lower rpm. the two cars are within 100 pounds of each other in weight. but the aurora cuts a much cleaner hole at 0.32 vs the caddy 0.36

[95oldsaurora]

nice lance

[Deleted]

thats odd...my names not karl, my truck didnt blow up....you must be talking about your other best friend. ;D

I ran an SLS and won, but it had like 25 less horses than the STS

[95mushroom]

Have him pull the codes. 93 /w 166k there's probably more then a few and sort out the problems...
www.caddyinfo.com/readingcodes.html

Interesting enough though. I won't mentioned exactly much quicker mine is then a certain 4.0 2nd Gen ;D ;D , but the '93 probably could stand some work.

Jul 16, 2009 22:41:08 GMT -6 aura1 said:

I ran an SLS and won, but it had like 25 less horses than the STS

Lol, it goes from a win against an SLS that was smoking and had other problems, to a legitimate win against a healthy one.....

Sort of like the ole' fishing tale of how big the fish was?

The fish was this big;
________________


Month or two later it's this big;
_______________________________________________

[latenight72]

Jul 16, 2009 23:28:23 GMT -6 95mushroom said:

I won't mentioned exactly much quicker mine is then a certain 4.0 2nd Gen ;D ;D , but the '93 probably could stand some work.

Except the distance you pulled wasn't nearly as big as your ******* land yacht is long.

[lanceslambos]

it's an Eldorado, one of my fav body styles.

[Deleted]

Jul 16, 2009 23:28:23 GMT -6 95mushroom said:

Have him pull the codes. 93 /w 166k there's probably more then a few and sort out the problems...
www.caddyinfo.com/readingcodes.html

Interesting enough though. I won't mentioned exactly much quicker mine is then a certain 4.0 2nd Gen ;D ;D , but the '93 probably could stand some work.

Jul 16, 2009 22:41:08 GMT -6 aura1 said:

I ran an SLS and won, but it had like 25 less horses than the STS

Lol, it goes from a win against an SLS that was smoking and had other problems, to a legitimate win against a healthy one.....

Sort of like the ole' fishing tale of how big the fish was?

The fish was this big;
________________


Month or two later it's this big;
_______________________________________________

;D did I mention the SLS was supercharged and the white smoke was from the jet engine it had mounted on the trunk?

How does an STS turn into an eldorado?
did you run the eldorado or the STS? Eldorados are quick from what I hear

[XJSman89]

Jul 17, 2009 8:31:15 GMT -6 aura1 said:

Eldorados are quick from what I hear

I've driven one. They have some pickup and I definitely like the looks of them, the 2 door is nice and sporty. Not a bad vehicle, but I wouldn't trade it for the Aurora.

[Deleted]

Jul 17, 2009 9:00:01 GMT -6 XJSman89 said:

Jul 17, 2009 8:31:15 GMT -6 aura1 said:

Eldorados are quick from what I hear

I've driven one. They have some pickup and I definitely like the looks of them, the 2 door is nice and sporty. Not a bad vehicle, but I wouldn't trade it for the Aurora.

what would you trade for the aurora?

[unirok]

I made short work of a Seville STS with my BMW 745 way back when but I am not sure about the Eldorado. I always thought the last Eldo was butt ugly bit I also hear it was pretty quick too.

[95mushroom]

Jul 17, 2009 8:31:15 GMT -6 aura1 said:

Jul 16, 2009 23:28:23 GMT -6 95mushroom said:

Have him pull the codes. 93 /w 166k there's probably more then a few and sort out the problems...
www.caddyinfo.com/readingcodes.html

Interesting enough though. I won't mentioned exactly much quicker mine is then a certain 4.0 2nd Gen ;D ;D , but the '93 probably could stand some work.





Lol, it goes from a win against an SLS that was smoking and had other problems, to a legitimate win against a healthy one.....

Sort of like the ole' fishing tale of how big the fish was?

The fish was this big;
________________


Month or two later it's this big;
_______________________________________________

;D did I mention the SLS was supercharged and the white smoke was from the jet engine it had mounted on the trunk?

How does an STS turn into an eldorado?
did you run the eldorado or the STS? Eldorados are quick from what I hear

Where did I saying anything about Eldorado's???

[Deleted]

not you..lance

[lanceslambos]

it's identical to this one i duuno if its a seville or eldorado

www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-classifieds/showproduct.php?product=2523

[Deleted]

thats a seville or SLS/STS because the eldorado is two door.

[Superdemon]

Jul 17, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -6 aura1 said:

thats a seville or SLS/STS because the eldorado is two door.

In that model year STS and SLS are just different packages of the Seville. So the car in this picture is a Seville of some kind. I think I see STS on the trunk lid but the picture is pretty small.

[oldwino]

Jul 17, 2009 23:07:43 GMT -6 Superdemon said:

Jul 17, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -6 aura1 said:

thats a seville or SLS/STS because the eldorado is two door.

In that model year STS and SLS are just different packages of the Seville. So the car in this picture is a Seville of some kind. I think I see STS on the trunk lid but the picture is pretty small.

I was always under the impression that

STS = Seville Touring Sedan
SLS = Seville Luxury Sedan

[Deleted]

SLS had 275 HP I think
And STS had 300 HP

I dont know what the actual letters mean though

[oldwino]

Check out this page. Pretty much explains it.

www.caddyinfo.com/sevilleyearbyyear.htm

[lanceslambos]

guys its def the 300 hp version. is like a 4 door eldorado sts lol pics in like 12 hours and some rolling vids soon. it puts me to shame off the line and will scratch second EVERY time i'm impressed. i think it's the same tranny not 4 sho but on the hwy we are more evenly matched b/c of the rpms we running but they are faster cars than auroras

[lanceslambos]

as promised pics... feast your eyes on that triple waxed sts took me 4 hours to do the inside & wax with meguiars, then turtle wax hand paste then turtle wax ice ya overkill huh, but just look at it. wish my car had that paint. no before pics b/c i started on her when it was still dark. actually if you look at the close up on the tail lights you can see the oxidation it had. i did the trunk @ rear bumper last. we had a garage sale and didn't make a single penny! so i went wax crazy and caught some rays
















and a look at before discoloration



mmm not bad for a '93 huh? he loves loves his new caddy & frankly so do I ;D umm quick question, someone here knows. the salesman said that this car came factory with the K&N, here's a pic. i say BS but i didn't detail under the hood & the tools were buried behind garage sale junk so we didn't take a look yet. it could have a Fram airhog or Wix who knows. the guy was doing a drug deal in the back when we picked up the car. karl's brother in law who owns the dealership has been informed and he got canned. so factory or not?





and look at this bee i captured wearing too much pollen to even fly no joke. that's a good sign folks since the bees are vanishing and all.







o and the flower he crawled from





sure glad i don't have allergies

[lanceslambos]

bump...car was taken back b/c it needed a new tranny. i spoke too soon on the allergies. got em bad. i guess no one either knows or cares :(about the k&n but i figure it was add on. wow i'm gonna miss this car and it wasn't even mine

[canaurora]

Black on black STS, sweet car. Obviously the tranny problems dictate why your race with him was so close.

I say, no contest otherwise. I'm quite certain my STS would beat my Aurora in a race. It definitely feels stronger.

My Aurora isn't an Autobahn car, but I don't think that option would make enough of a difference for a much smaller engine to overcome in the same weight of car. It's just plain physics. Though the Aurora body is certainly more aerodynamic.

That, being said, I love both cars. And I only bought the STS as a 4.6 donor for the Aurora, LOL! Sadly, the Caddy is a high miler in rough shape, but it had a recent swap of a low mileage engine/trans which hauls butt.

Can't wait to do the engine! The STS even has a great set of "Aurora" tires! Gotta swap those! Anyone ever heard of them?
I've heard they are an offshoot Hankook brand, but pretty cool to have the name of the car on the tires, the writing is even in a similar font!