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Post by jd on Dec 22, 2009 21:32:11 GMT -6
I just joined ACNA yesterday. I don't have an aurora yet but I want one badly.I have been studying them but I have a problem deciding.I like the looks and size of the first generation, but I like the side air bags and use of regular fuel wich brings a new question. How dose same 4.o engine make 250hp on premium fuel in first generation and 250hp on regular fuel in second generation. I think the 98 or 99 model may be the best of the whole lot but I need help deciding.
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Post by Marc on Dec 23, 2009 11:11:57 GMT -6
All engines specs for the 2nd generation were upgraded. 2 examples: The cylinder heads on the 2nd gen V8 are freer flowing, and the intake valves are larger on the 2001-03. The 2nd gen v8 has rocker arms, which the 1995-99 did not have. This permits higher valve lift. In short, the only carryover spec between 1999 & 2001 was the engine size........4.0 liters or 244 cubic inches. All that permits the 2001-03 to run on regular & make the same power as the 1995-99 on premium.
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Post by thestig8 on Dec 23, 2009 14:48:04 GMT -6
yes its the same problem for me. i like the spacey front end on the first one, but i do not like the full width tailight. i like the sab and the use of more wood on the second gen, but i like the dic and steering wheel on the first one.
VERDICT-buy a 99
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Post by lanceslambos on Dec 23, 2009 15:11:56 GMT -6
i do not like the full width tailight. blasphemy! that's one one the coolest features |
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Post by thestig8 on Dec 23, 2009 16:03:46 GMT -6
if thay would have made it where you could get an option to cover the mid section, and leave the out section i would be ok
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Post by XJSman89 on Dec 23, 2009 17:17:07 GMT -6
if thay would have made it where you could get an option to cover the mid section, and leave the out section i would be ok ...then it's not a full width tail light is it? It all burns down to personal preference pretty much. There is a greater chance that a 2G you would buy would be in better condition simply because its newer. While I love my 96' there are some features that it lacks. The passenger mirror doesn't go down while reversing (97's and up do this) and the shocks aren't quite as nice, the garage door opener doesn't support rolling codes, and the mirror doesn't have a compass. Again, the 97's and up had these standard. Marc explained the engine difference quite well; they were simply re-engineered to be a more efficient engine of a little higher quality. That being said the Classic is no slouch, it performs just fine. Why are you leaning towards a 98/99? Any specific reason? If you elaborate I'm sure we can give you info to help you decide! If you find any specific ones you want feel free to post links to them as well, we can lend advice there. |
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Post by thestig8 on Dec 23, 2009 17:25:46 GMT -6
im sorry i always thought that full width lights went towards the 80s or the Acura NSX (thats why i dod not like the Challenger concept)
i would buy a 99 or an 03
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Post by cbburtraw on Dec 23, 2009 22:36:24 GMT -6
I think the second gen 4.0 generally runs better on premium gas anyways. correct me if I'm wrong?
Also, the classic 4.0 actually runs just fine on regular, if its in good working order. It will be slightly slower but does not cause any harm. I never had a problem paying a little extra for premium gas personally unless money was really tight.
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Post by Marc on Dec 23, 2009 22:38:38 GMT -6
The 2nd Gen 4.0 runs MUCH better on premium......that's been my experience, in brief.
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Post by lanceslambos on Dec 24, 2009 0:52:36 GMT -6
X2 marc with the classics. and aww collins sounds like you might be wishing you had a 97, wanna trade  simply put if it had tail lights that didn't go across it would be like an intrigue  |
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Post by aurora4 on Dec 24, 2009 2:19:28 GMT -6
simply put if it had tail lights that didn't go across it would be like an intrigue maybe he should get one of those then. |
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Post by Aurora40 on Dec 24, 2009 8:32:57 GMT -6
How dose same 4.o engine make 250hp on premium fuel in first generation and 250hp on regular fuel in second generation. Mainly the improvements in burn rate allow the same result from less timing advance. Which reduces the likelihood of detonation, which allows for a lower octane fuel to be used. When talking about the engines, the 2001+ engine is absolutely improved. The rest of the car is subjective. Best to drive a few of them and make your own decision. I wouldn't get hung up on what fuel it takes. Both cars do better on premium, but will run on regular. |
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Post by Aurora40 on Dec 24, 2009 8:34:48 GMT -6
The 2nd gen v8 has rocker arms, which the 1995-99 did not have. Just FYI Marc, no conventional DOHC engine has rocker arms, the lifters or followers operate the valves directly. Whatever lift the cam has, that's what the valve will be doing. |
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Post by XJSman89 on Dec 24, 2009 10:58:33 GMT -6
i would buy a 99 or an 03 Please don't give advice without support to your claims. You have given no reasoning as to why you suggest a 99 or an 03. aww collins sounds like you might be wishing you had a 97, wanna trade For YOUR 97? Heck no! I want an Aurora, not a Ricemobile! ;D Seriously tho it doesn't bug me all that much. My 96' does just fine. Besides I have a 99' garage transmitter and a 97' mirror in mine right now thanks to Randy, I'm content! |
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Post by lanceslambos on Dec 24, 2009 19:46:23 GMT -6
yea on second thought, why would i want a purple car?
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Post by XJSman89 on Dec 24, 2009 20:31:55 GMT -6
yea on second thought, why would i want a purple car? You know what? I don't want to hear it from you Mr. Streetglow Stripes. ;D |
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Post by thestig8 on Dec 25, 2009 20:57:43 GMT -6
good call lance
btw, i say 99 or 03 because i like last year cars
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Post by lanceslambos on Dec 26, 2009 17:14:33 GMT -6
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Post by roara on Dec 27, 2009 15:27:47 GMT -6
i do not like the full width tailight. blasphemy! that's one one the coolest features Then you wouldn't be part of FWTC, full width taillight club! No offense 2G owners ;D |
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simply put if it had tail lights that didn't go across it would be like an intrigue 
