Contrails vs. Chemtrails *Many giant pics

[lanceslambos]

well if they were then they would disappear in a matter of seconds - minutes. instead these linger around for hours and hours, in fact they don't go away for up to 18 hours or more sometimes

[phaetonsts]

Feb 3, 2012 16:59:42 GMT -6 lanceslambos said:

well if they were then they would disappear in a matter of seconds - minutes. instead these linger around for hours and hours, in fact they don't go away for up to 18 hours or more sometimes

Not wanting to sound like some sarcastic troll here, but, do you actually stare at them for 18 hours on end? ;D

[Randy T.]

Feb 1, 2012 22:01:33 GMT -6 @phaetonsts said:

Don't want to sound too optimistic here, but with the way the trails seem to be coming out of the exhausts look to me like just freezing exhaust trails.

But what do I know?

The contrails that spread out are called spreading persistent contrails, they cover the sky with man made clouds for days at a time. My video below gives some of the basic information.

[Randy T.]

Check out these "normal flight patterns" from a couple days ago, lol. It drives me crazy when the weatherman says how the clouds "rolled" in throughout the day. They are weatherpeople, they should know what spreading persistent contrails and man made clouds are. It was so bad the day I took these pics. One weatherman didn't even talk about the days clouds or the day at all, I think he was ashamed to lie, because it was so obvious all the clouds came from the jets.

They are called spreading persistent contrails, according to NASA they could have an effect on all of our natural resources. That's everything folks, everything. Here is a quote from NASAs website, it was on the video above, if you watched it.

"Clouds are the largest variable controlling Earth's atmospheric temperature and climate. Any change in global cloud cover may contribute to long-term changes in Earth's climate (see The Role of Clouds from the S'COOL Project). Likewise, any change in Earth's climate may have effects on natural resources. Contrails, especially persistent contrails, represent a human-caused increase in high thin clouds in the Earth's atmosphere, and are likely to be affecting climate and ultimately our natural resources."- science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/importance.html

There have been spcs (spreading persistent contrails) every night and day since the first of January, I watch and I pay attention. I am telling you, in my opinion, if this continues everyday, our food and everything is not going to grow as good, the food for the cows to make the cheeseburgers will not be there. We will all be not getting enough vitamin d, the consequences will be hard and long lasting, and I don't think it will be long before we start seeing them. That's based on the amount of spcs I have been seeing and documenting.
I was put on this earth to help people and I have to try to tell everyone about what is happening, I think these jets are destroying the earth.


I watched this guy make a full turnaround. Normal flight patterns?





This picture speaks for itself, I don't even know what to think. My friend got pics of the other side of it, from 25 miles away from me. They are being blatant about it, and I am glad, more people can see.










This is the result of all the spcs throughout the day, all these clouds are man made. It's sick and it really pisses me off that they are slowly destroying our earth. Soon there won't be enough food, and you thought expensive gas was bad.




This is not a joke or a tin hat conspiracy theory, it is happening, and I have NASA to back me up on that. I hate NASA. lol

[Randy T.]

Video of the contrail bowl!! A witness to it forming said the jet went in a circle 3 times. I bet it's to promote the super bowl!! lol

[Randy T.]

Everything is ok little sheep, just lay down and die. In 50 years people will be talking about how they used to spray the sky with aerosols, how crazy it was, and how ridiculous it was that no one even noticed or cared.

[roara]

The circles look like military maneuvers to me...but I'm in a designated NO-SPRAY zone out here so what do I know.

Send your local weatherman an e-mail, "wth is going on Mr. Meatierologist?"

[Randy T.]

www-angler.larc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/site/showdoc?docid=33&cmd=forecast

Here is NASA contrail radar site, according to it, you have plenty of activity in your area. A lot of man made clouds look normal, they can roll in looking just like cirrus clouds.
Weatherpeople know all about it, asking them would be pointless. They lie about it every day. The day I took these photos was a massive spray day, people were noticing it like crazy. The weather just says clouds roll in, one weatherman did not talk about the days weather at all, I think he was ashamed to lie cause it was so obvious. They always talk about the days weather.

If I do get the chance, I would like to ask one in person.

For some massive info check here. science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/importance.html It supports a lot of the info I have been giving, laced with a bunch of lies, of course. My point of it is, meatierologists lol, should know the difference, and they do, they are not allowed to talk about it.
I post my contrail education video on the weather facebooks, no one comments on it, no one pays attention, I don't know if they block them from view of the public or what.

[Randy T.]

I have caught this on film 3 different times, it is not the dark circle, that is a camera flaw, it is the white spec that flies by at a very high rate of speed. Possibly a 350mph bird. On the original non altered video it looks like a circle with things flapping around it.

[lanceslambos]

do you man the orb about half way through the video that appears and then dissapears, then reappears briefly over and behind the plane? did the aliens get to ya yet?

[Randy T.]

My observation of spreading contrails continues, I don't have as much time to take pics as I did before, but still get some here and there. I have also learned not to let this bother me, as I had expressed worry and anger in earlier posts. I still care and try to get the information out. Here are some pics of a an unknown object I caught above Wal-mart, first I was taking pics of spreading contrails in front of the Moon, then a hawk flew by with a bird chasing it, I was amused so I got a couple pics of the event, reviewing the pics later is when I noticed something strange.

The Moon with persistent contrails in front of it.



The hawk and the bird with the object below.



Object cropped and zoomed.



After seeing the unknown object I reviewed all the pictures, I noticed that there were many dark objects in the clouds by the Moon, they all look round in nature, and there are lot's of them, filling the clouds. I am wondering if they are the same things that were below the hawk and bird. You can't see them that well, but my original pics are very big and I can see them a lot better when zooming in.



If anyone has any pics of persistent spreading contrails, feel free to post them here, I would like to see them and what you observe.

[tigger]

These?

[Randy T.]

I don't know if those have anything to do with contrails, but that is a very nice picture.

[Marc]

Oct 21, 2012 19:50:10 GMT -6 Randy T. said:

Object cropped and zoomed.

A UFO, I guess

[lanceslambos]

Randy I saw many crazy clouds around Denver airport last week but I focused on capturing the majestic scenery vs clouds of doom overhead. There were these enormous pancake looking clouds that would hang out for hours with jets flying in and out of them all day with their trails on and off, on and off, on and off, on and off. You get the idea!

[Randy T.]

Some pics from the last couple days, there have been many, many jets covering the sky with persistent spreading contrails. None of them seem to stick with the local flight corridor, they also fly cross ways, jets normally fly NSEW. Notice the star pattern contrails in a couple pics below. "This star pattern of intersecting contrails is actually not that unusual; at least in some parts of the country. Under the current air traffic control system, planes fly along specific "highways in the sky" which intersect at certain points over navigational beacons."-NASA. I can assure you, there is not a navigational beacon below this star pattern contrail. I do know where the local nav beacons are, the closest one is about 23 miles South of where this pic was taken.

[lanceslambos]

hard to say there's not a beacon under it when dealing with these distances. It may appear directly overhead but be miles off either direction. Google Earth emphasizes this curvature of the earth when you zoom in. Try just using the dial on your mouse to go directly to an object then click on the object, you'll see what I mean. Was the first picture the day of the meet? On the way out I noticed the same kind of somewhat rainbow reflection off the side of the sun like that. I'm not sure the relation if any but I don't see those mini rainbow clouds very often like in the 1st pic on far left.

[Randy T.]

I see rainbow clouds all the time, they are called sun dogs, they are supposed to be rare, but when dealing with spreading persistent contrails, they are quite common.

I know what you mean by distance, when you get a visual on a contrail it can look a couple miles away, but still be 30-40 miles away, easily. I see these contrail star patterns in every direction, I know where 3 beacons are located withing 100 miles from here, I need to do more research. I would like to be able to track flight corridors better and learn more about it, the information is not that easy to track down.

Skyvector is one of the better ones I have found.

skyvector.com/

Of course there are all the flight tracking websites, I have yet to see a jet with a persistent contrail be traceable.

[Randy T.]

Here are a couple pics from yesterday.

[Randy T.]

The military does spray us with aluminum coated fibers smaller than a human hair, almost too small to see with the human eye. It's called chaff, jets drop it to confuse radar during military exercises, they spread it over people without them even knowing. The military also knows what chaff does to people, cattle, and water. Chaff is so small, they say when we breathe it in it easily clears out, in other words, they are saying it's okay to spray chaff on you, and it's okay for you to breathe it in.

"Chaff and flares are defensive counter measures used on aircraft to confuse radar and heat
seeking missiles. Chaff is used as a decoy for radar seeking missiles and is made of glass
silicate fibers with an aluminum coating. The fibers are approximately 60% glass fiber and 40%
aluminum by weight. The typical Air Force RR-188 chaff bundle contains about 150 g of chaff or
about 5 million fibers. The fibers are 25 microns in diameter and typically 1 to 2 cm in length. In
1997, the Air Force used about 1.8 million bundles worldwide.
The amount of chaff released worldwide by all of the services is approximately 500 tons per
year. Chaff falls to the earth at a settling velocity of approximately 30 cm per second.
Atmospheric residence times range from 10 minutes for the majority of chaff released at 100 m
to approximately 10 hours for chaff released at 10,000 feet. Chaff fibers experience little
breakup before reaching the ground.
After the chaff is ejected from the aircraft and into the aircraft slipstream, the chaff packages
burst open and the fibers scatter to form a radar-reflective cloud called a chaff corridor. Each
chaff package is designed to simulate an aircraft. Several aircraft can create a chaff curtain,
consisting of thousands of false targets, which confuse the radar guidance package on a missile
so they are unable to locate the real targets within the chaff cloud.
Virtually all chaff fibers are 10-100 times larger than PM10 and PM2.5, the air particulates of
concern for public health. The primary fiber size is usually too large to be inhaled by livestock,
but if they are inhaled they do not penetrate far into the respiratory system and can be easily
cleared out. The possible nutritional effects due to chaff ingestion and the risk is minimal to nil
for both humans and livestock, considering the chemical composition of chaff (essentially
identical to soil) and low chaff loading on the environment. Chaff decomposing in water has no
adverse impacts on water chemistry or aquatic life."-USAF

Link below is where I got the quote from above, it's the USAF Contrail info document.

www.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-051013-001.pdf


Here is some info and a link to the info on radars picking up chaff, in other words, the area in KY is covered with enough chaff to show up on radar.

"Chaff Detected by NWS Louisville Radar

It has been documented in the past, particularly in western states, that NWS NEXRAD radar can detect chaff. What is that you ask? Chaff is a radar countermeasure used by military aircraft consisting of very small pieces of metal such as aluminum. It can appear as narrow bands of reflectivity on the radar since they are dispersed by planes flying at high speeds along a path.

During the afternoon hours of 7 January 2006, the Louisville NEXRAD radar (KLVX) detected what appeared to be chaff. The day was mostly clear, with only a few high level cirrus clouds. Winds at the surface were out of the southwest, but higher up near the level the chaff was detected, winds were out of the west-northwest. The echoes presented here are somewhat weaker than normal, topping out around 16 dBz or so."

www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=chaff-jan2006

[roara]

That triangle pic is kinda cool.

In recent years in the summer here our doppler radar has picked up "chaff snakes" on perfectly clear days. The weather dude even pointed it out. Its from the 141st ANG doing war games over the Pacific, then it rolls inland.

[genone]

I'm pretty sure the question has been answered.

[Randy T.]

Would you care to clarify what you are trying to say genone? I hope that don't sound rude, just don't know what you mean.

[Randy T.]

Interesting classic video of a smoke curtain. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_EdgP57l1Q&list=FL8D50n71MlF7Gt6YIZuf6Nw&index=1&feature=plpp_video

[lanceslambos]

If the world does happen to go to heck on the 21st, these people don't care. Every morning and evening this week has had plenty of spraying. Right up to the bitter end.....

this morning


I don't know what this was the other day. By the time I was able to zoom in (40x) on it the object was flying behind my house thus the dark area on left. It did not look like a plane but rather a glowing ball.


Then the other day I saw this
?

[Randy T.]

Lance, the #2 pic looks like the sun glaring off a jet, you can see the contrail behind the glow. The jet is too far too see, but the glare would be more visible, similar to an Iridium flare.

#3 pic looks like a longer exposure pic while moving the camera. What is the story behind it?

[Randy T.]

A couple pics from my lunch break today.









Added bonus video, also caught on my lunch break today. If you care, mute the music, I did not realize when I made the video that it's laced with obscenities.

[Randy T.]

Here is a redo of the video above, I let youtube edit it and they wrecked it and the best part became blacked out. Mute music to block cuss words.

[Randy T.]

If you watch the weather, listen to the weather person, I have heard the word "high clouds" about 20 times this morning. By "high clouds" they mean spreading persistent contrails. Being meteorologists you think they would know the difference. I ask them about it on facebook every once in a while, they ignore or delete.

[Randy T.]

Nov 26, 2012 16:59:58 GMT -6 genone said:

I'm pretty sure the question has been answered.

Since you don't want to clarify, and you don't have anything intelligent to say, stay off my thread with your ignorant pictures.