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Post by david97 on Jul 20, 2012 12:36:55 GMT -6
i want to put an after market air intake on my aurora do i have to start cutting holes or can just take the old box out and put the new intake in i prefer not to have to cut holes if i dont need to
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Post by sall on Jul 20, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -6
What air intake do you have in mind(link to product or auction)? The least expensive option is an OEM airbox gut and Spectre(or the more expensive K&N) drop in filter. Other have used PVC or ABS piping and ran a conical aftermarket filter in the wheel well. This requires cutting a round hole out around the OEM rectangular(or square? don't recall) hole. Most of the 'CAI' sold eBay etc just pull hot air from the engine compartment as they do not pull air through the fender well.
Take a look around the performance subsection. Many WAI and CAI setups to view.
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Post by wireless on Jul 20, 2012 21:11:08 GMT -6
I did a true CAI on my Aurora for a while, I also tried a WAI.
To do the true CAI you have to cut some metal, and the WAI outright sucks.
I would do the airbox mod and throw in a non paper filter. The gains of the WAI don't even exist, and the only advantage to the true CAI is the sound. I noticed no performance or gas mileage gains.
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Post by lanceslambos on Jul 26, 2012 21:13:56 GMT -6
the WAI outright sucks. The gains of the WAI don't even exist, and the only advantage to the true CAI is the sound. you're crazy man. this thing is David, if you put a ricer size cone and tubing on a v8 its a restriction. you need to use the oem 4" elbow and the biggest cone they make (1,000 cfm) |
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Post by shelbyracing on Jul 27, 2012 7:46:04 GMT -6
WAI is for gas mileage, CAI is for power.
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Post by wireless on Jul 27, 2012 8:56:45 GMT -6
you're crazy man. this thing is David, if you put a ricer size cone and tubing on a v8 its a restriction. you need to use the oem 4" elbow and the biggest cone they make (1,000 cfm) I did that though! I did a lot of setups; even used the PVC pipe method tipsy has! (or was it randy?) |
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Post by lanceslambos on Jul 27, 2012 9:14:47 GMT -6
must have been tipsy. randy used 2 oem elbows together then ran it into the fender.
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Post by sall on Jul 27, 2012 9:32:58 GMT -6
Just because the filter is rated for 1000cfm does not mean you pull that much. The spectre panel filter has the same potential if not more IIRC. And my honest opinion is PVC/ABS intakes do not belong on these cars or really any for that matter.
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Post by wireless on Jul 27, 2012 10:07:25 GMT -6
I've had multiple setups - both WAI (i did that one purely for the sound, and oh did it sound good), OEM elbow with a filter on it (wasn't a huge one, it didn't fit / look good so I avoided it) and I also did a CAI setup down into the fender. Cutting the metal wasn't fun (or worth it) so I ultimately ended up back with the gutted air box & a panel filter. That was my preference & opinion after months with each setup. Well, minus the PVC, I didn't paint it and it was hideous.  |
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Post by lanceslambos on Aug 3, 2012 6:47:39 GMT -6
i agree on the pvc pipe part. no matter what sort of setup one does on these cars, it's not like you'll notice a huge increase in anything other than sweet sound of v-8
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Post by XJSman89 on Aug 3, 2012 7:10:36 GMT -6
i agree on the pvc pipe part. no matter what sort of setup one does on these cars, it's not like you'll notice a huge increase in anything other than sweet sound of v-8 Unless you wrap the intake around your engine bay a couple times. Right, Lance? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by sall on Aug 3, 2012 8:27:48 GMT -6
I emailed Spectre and the direct replacement panel filter has the potential for 1190 cfm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 11:22:15 GMT -6
i agree on the pvc pipe part. no matter what sort of setup one does on these cars, it's not like you'll notice a huge increase in anything other than sweet sound of v-8 Unless you wrap the intake around your engine bay a couple times. Right, Lance? ;D ;D ;D HAHA! He had like 7 feet of tubing in that ole girl! Leave it to collins to have fun at the expense of others.  |
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Post by XJSman89 on Aug 3, 2012 11:34:32 GMT -6
HAHA! He had like 7 feet of tubing in that ole girl! Leave it to collins to have fun at the expense of others. Not others, just Lance. Because he knows I exist in life to give him crap about stuff. ;D |
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Post by Randy T. on Aug 8, 2012 18:17:43 GMT -6
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Post by gazj83 on Aug 12, 2012 13:13:30 GMT -6
Oh, that sounds so sweet!
Question - I fitted an after market cone filter to my Aurora back in 2003/2004 and I ended up with engine problems, mainly the engine cutting out while driving. I took the cone filter off and this didn't happen again until recently, which is why we've gone the whole hog and started restoring the car.
Is this a common problem, or just a coincidence?
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Post by lanceslambos on Aug 15, 2012 22:02:40 GMT -6
if you throw a ricer size on it it might be starving for air gazj83, otherwise it's an Aurora coincidence which is different than others |
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Post by scottyaurorav8 on Aug 28, 2012 2:36:37 GMT -6
I'd love to do a FWI on my aurora...I'm in the process of trying to find some PCM tray stands I can drill into the engine bay in place of where the PCM currently rests. If thats the case, I can do away with the entire stock intake setup and it will look clean. I did the exact thing with my GF's grand prix. I just hafta see if the PCM will fit into any of the trays they sell for that car....theres 3 different kinds, hopefully the Aurora PCM could snap into one of them.
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Post by phillip on Oct 4, 2012 23:16:00 GMT -6
I have a question, when you guys say "air box gut" what do you mean? Is there a write-up and are there any before-after pictures? To me this sounds like the simplest way to do an upgrade on the intake system. I'm not a fan of the conical intakes.
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Post by robaurora01 on Oct 5, 2012 4:09:15 GMT -6
Phil i have pics on here somewheres later tonight when i get home i will post them again as in my personal experience its the best and most gains out of it for our cars
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Post by tipsymcstager on Oct 5, 2012 4:56:32 GMT -6
What air intake do you have in mind(link to product or auction)? The least expensive option is an OEM airbox gut and Spectre(or the more expensive K&N) drop in filter. Other have used PVC or ABS piping and ran a conical aftermarket filter in the wheel well. This requires cutting a round hole out around the OEM rectangular(or square? don't recall) hole. Most of the 'CAI' sold eBay etc just pull hot air from the engine compartment as they do not pull air through the fender well. Take a look around the performance subsection. Many WAI and CAI setups to view. 1st..no it don't, and 2nd why not? whats wrong with PVC, lol........... ;D i can say for sure, i could tell a good dif in throttle response! and when i hook up my scanner, and do a realtime maping, you can see a 10-14 deg drop in temp at the AIT sensor! plus the PVC disperses heat, and cools faster then metal! for sure the tube to the front of the filter,helps give a better shot of cold air! and that was the only hole i had to cut  yes the "box mod" is cheaper (no cost other then the filter) but then again the PVC is much cheaper (about 45 bucks in parts with filter) then what you'd buy at an auto parts store.            i guess it's mostly a matter of personal opinion |
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Post by phillip on Oct 5, 2012 12:00:17 GMT -6
Phil i have pics on here somewheres later tonight when i get home i will post them again as in my personal experience its the best and most gains out of it for our cars Thank you Rob, I did more reading (so much info here) and found this: aurorah.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Zoom&action=display&thread=10803So I think I will wait until I get ready to do exhaust work on the car and do it all at the same time. Besides I would like to get another air box, for a back up, from a junk yard. |
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Post by sall on Oct 5, 2012 15:19:56 GMT -6
I just do not think a homemade ABS or PVC intake looks very good. That's my opinion though! I can relocate the IAT sensor and get a drop in temperature too. Maybe I will run a few tests I still have the insert for the air box. However! You did give me a very good idea...stock look to boot. There is a piece of ABS inside the OEM intake tube though!
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