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Post by scottyaurorav8 on Jan 20, 2013 19:43:51 GMT -6
Hey guys, here is another video of me and my Aurora doing a 0-110mph run. The last video I posted when I did a 0-90mph run was so dark that I figured I would redo it. So, I want to know your thoughts on this, do you think I have approached the speed of the Seville STS, or not really? This was done in drive, no power braking and I use 87 octane
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Post by Marc on Jan 20, 2013 20:35:52 GMT -6
0-60 in 7 seconds, 0-100 in 18 seconds & 0-110 in 23 seconds on, as you say, 87 octane. Do the run again, on 93 octane. There will be an improvement. You should be able to get into the 6 sec. range (0-60) on 93.
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 20, 2013 22:41:39 GMT -6
Using stop watch on videos 4-5 times ......... 0-60, 0-80, 0-90, 0-100 Your's: 7.3, 11.6, 15.2 19.2 STS: 6.5, 10.2, 13.2, 17.3 Mine: 6.3, 10.2, 13.3, 17.4 Started yours when tires chirped. I timed about 4 different STS videos and one is definitely going down hill or something. So that is about where the 3 landed.
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Post by wireless on Jan 20, 2013 22:41:57 GMT -6
Yeah you should definitely be in the 6 second range... my classic was in the 6 second range lol.
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Post by scottyaurorav8 on Jan 20, 2013 23:12:28 GMT -6
Geez, my car is slow lolol. I thought for sure it felt fast and would have thought id have been much closer to.a seville than I thought. Yea maybe ill try and pump some 93 octane in her. Maybe I needa tune just like you shelby. My mods probably messed up my air/ fuel settings
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Post by wireless on Jan 21, 2013 9:07:58 GMT -6
No, it's really not, it honestly looks closer to the 3.5 range IMO lol. It feels fast, but hey.
I don't think he has a tune either.
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Post by Marc on Jan 21, 2013 9:17:30 GMT -6
My 2001 4.0, running on 93 & with the TC off, will spin the tires very nicely at less than half throttle. I never used 87 because I knew that it would be down on power running 87.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:50:05 GMT -6
You can see how much the Aurora really shines in that 50-80 range. The passing power was a priority when these cars were manufactured, and it really shows.
I find that pretty quick! A 0-60 is almost always decided by the launch. If you went back and timed the STS from 60-100, I think you would find the Aurora closer than you think.
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Post by Marc on Jan 21, 2013 13:21:06 GMT -6
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2013 15:06:15 GMT -6
I agree, and I brake stall mine for launch. ;D So 60-90 an effective measure of power Your's- 7.9 STS--- 6.7 Mine-- 7.0 The STS has a pretty good rpm advantage on me. (for having same cams) Plus the ones I saw all had performance exhaust. Since we have stock to go buy (thanks Marc) 50-70 Stock--3.9 Your's-3.4 STS----3.2-3.1 Mine--3.1 (guessing that's because from 50-70 it doesn't get the chance to hit the higher rpm band than me) It takes forever to do this, but I can't help it I'm just as curious as you ;D Plus I really like pushing numbers and figuring stuff out. I found a couple STS videos that I was actually faster than and used 2 of the quicker ones to compare, so maybe those STS numbers are a little quicker than a true stock one
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Post by Marc on Jan 21, 2013 16:24:56 GMT -6
Shelbyracing.....OK!
I also wanted to add that I once timed a 1970 Chrysler New Yorker with the 375 HP 440 CID from 50 - 70 in 4.5 seconds. And the 2G did that same run in 3.9 seconds as quoted in my above post. This shows how efficient the 4.0L is.
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Post by scottyaurorav8 on Jan 21, 2013 18:02:20 GMT -6
Wow Marc, why is your car so much faster than stock? I didn't know you were modified... You ever take a 1/4mile run with your car....from the section on the forum, I gathered the avg. 1/4 mile time seems to be 15.7-15.8. I only saw guys in the 14's, but they used Nitrous. What is the current fastest "4.0" Aurora without Nitrous in the 1/4 mile?
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2013 18:49:15 GMT -6
I think you misread his post Scotty. 50-70 in 3.9 That's pretty sweet however.
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Post by Marc on Jan 21, 2013 19:13:46 GMT -6
ScottyAuroraV8......I have never run mine. I may do it someday, even though I'm coming up on 70 this year. BTW, I have never done any performance mods. The fastest Aurora at ACNA in the 1/4 seems be Aurora40's 2002 4.0. This car turned a 14.868 @ at somewhere between 92 & 93 mph, IIRC. The only mod that he made was putting in a Corsa exhaust. He also took out a small amount of weight, the back seat, the spare & the jack. He didn't use nitrous. If you want to ask him about this, e mail him. He hasn't been here in several months.
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Post by scottyaurorav8 on Jan 21, 2013 20:10:00 GMT -6
Damn a 14.8 and only with Corsa. I never took my car to the track yet, but I have Corsa exhaust and i def. feel a difference, but I dont feel a difference that would put me into the 14's LOL. So him taking out the back seats, spare etc...lets say he saved 200lbs, thats 2/10th off his E.T. He must have a factory freak. Lucky Lucky Lucky! I have a Corsa exhaust and my own air intake setup I made. I could only wish it puts me into the 14's. I need to get some good tires and some money together and go one day, It be nice to find out where I am. But I will make sure to put in 93 Octane. I just hope gas prices dont go up too much more
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Post by Randy T. on Jan 21, 2013 20:24:52 GMT -6
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 21, 2013 21:27:47 GMT -6
I don't see a y - pipe making a 50 hp difference though. That is a full blown STS track time man. They run 14.8-15.2 300 HP. Same trans & 70 lbs lighter. Here is a Corsa STS youtu.be/IQ-N7fMfgNg
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Post by Randy T. on Jan 22, 2013 19:32:48 GMT -6
I was not suggesting a y pipe smoothie would make a 50 hp difference, I was simply stating that it's a good idea to clean them up.
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Post by shelbyracing on Jan 22, 2013 23:53:52 GMT -6
I know that, I was just saying there has to be some other mods if he ran 14.anything . Or maybe he unhooked the serpentine (10-15hp) though might hinder computer or ignition performance
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Post by auroraandy1 on Mar 14, 2013 16:23:00 GMT -6
For some reason it always seems that the 2gs are a pretty good deal faster (like a half a second in the 1/4 mile) and the 4.0 2gs are only like 70 lbs lighter than the classic and do have stock autobahn gear, even autobahn classics don't seem to run as good, I y think maybe when they did the 2000+ northstar redesign maybe the new 4.0L northstar had an underrated horsepower.
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Post by brynbetts on Mar 14, 2013 16:28:14 GMT -6
Are these capable of hitting the 140mph mark?
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Post by Marc on Mar 14, 2013 19:05:09 GMT -6
I think maybe when they did the 2000+ northstar redesign maybe the new 4.0L northstar had an underrated horsepower. Agreed 100%. I have been driving a 2001 4.0 for more than 12 years. I gave it a careful break in & have always used 93 & 94 when it was available. Past about 80 mph it feels almost as good as my prior car, a 1972 455 442 W-25. And I did some work on that 442......advanced timing, richened carb & turbo mufflers. My Aurora is showroom stock underneath the hood. Not even as much as a K&N.
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Post by Marc on Mar 14, 2013 19:17:53 GMT -6
Are these capable of hitting the 140mph mark? Some time ago, I found a video on Youtube of a Classic doing a claimed 140 mph. So I think that a 2G could certainly do that with the speed limit taken off. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtOyzTCSb80&feature=context-cha(Paste that into your browser. The link won't work.)
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Post by brynbetts on Mar 14, 2013 19:22:11 GMT -6
Being that mine is a 2002, I wouldn't feel comfortable pushing an eleven year old car that hard. And mines a v6. Really struggled at 130.
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Post by wireless on Mar 15, 2013 2:38:25 GMT -6
I hit 140mph in my classic ;D
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Post by Randy T. on Mar 15, 2013 6:38:19 GMT -6
I know that, I was just saying there has to be some other mods if he ran 14.anything . Or maybe he unhooked the serpentine (10-15hp) though might hinder computer or ignition performance Figured you did, lol. I wonder if there are controllable tensioners? It would be nice to hit a button and be able to let your belt slip when you want it to, that could make a big difference on a 1/4 mile. I have been up to 137 in my old Autobahn Aurora.
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Post by lanceslambos on Mar 15, 2013 7:18:15 GMT -6
the car in the video above isnot pushing it out all the way. A Northstar at full wrap will shift out of secondinto third near 90 mph
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Post by brynbetts on Mar 15, 2013 16:05:03 GMT -6
Wonder what the v6 can do…
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Post by Marc on Mar 15, 2013 18:13:34 GMT -6
Somebody here once mentioned that they had taken their 2001 3.5 to around 135 mph. I just can't remember who it was.
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Post by Rocinante on Mar 16, 2013 12:31:59 GMT -6
Somebody here once mentioned that they had taken their 2001 3.5 to around 135 mph. I just can't remember who it was. That must have been Rob.
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