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Post by erw38 on Jul 5, 2004 22:03:58 GMT -6
how often is to often to wax you car?
I am going to wash mine tomorrow (pollen sucks!) and would like to wax it as well, but don't want to over do it.
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Post by omegaic on Jul 5, 2004 22:11:10 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as too often? All I know is if you over wax it you're going to start to get an uneven coat (less shine) and maybe some clouding.
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Post by JimW on Jul 5, 2004 22:43:26 GMT -6
Waxing to many times is overkill really IMO, but it never hurts to splash water on it. Find a routine that works and go with it. Mr Meguiars can take it from here
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 8:49:49 GMT -6
Do you really think I'm Mr. Meguiar's? They do make quality products across a wide range of needs, and they are pretty easy to find locally. So they are easy to recommend. But all products have to be used properly, and you can do the same job with most anybody's product if you use the right process. I actually don't use Meguiar's waxes on the car for the most part. I really prefer Blackfire, though recently I put on Wolfgang followed by Blackfire. I like Meguiar's #16 wax, though, and put it on top of just about anything. Their Medallion Premium Paint Protection is what I recommend to family and friends because it shines a lot, is very easy to use, and is very durable. Plus, it has very light cleaning action to help it bond better, since most people (i.e. my family and friends) don't do a lot of prep before waxing. Anyway, no you really can't wax your car too much. What products are you using? If it were like wax mixed with paint thinner, then ok maybe you could. But in general no way. The more you wax, the better off your paint will be. Waxing every day vs every week might not protect your paint any better, but it sure won't hurt it any. Some specifics always help, though, as general questions can only get general answers. If you were going to wax your car as a full-time job, 8 hours a day 40-hours a week, then yeah, maybe that's too much. Or if you apply wax with a rotarty buffer and a wool pad, then yeah, maybe you should do that as infrequently as possible. But generally, no way will you be able to wax your car often enough that it is not beneficial.
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 9:05:26 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as too often? All I know is if you over wax it you're going to start to get an uneven coat (less shine) and maybe some clouding. In my experience, clouding is usually due to applying multiple coats without giving the previous coats a chance to set up, or from applying the product on too thickly. I have never ever seen clouding or loss of shine/gloss that were due to more coats of a wax or sealant instead of the process used to apply it. If you apply a wax on too thickly, it will be very hard to buff off all the residue completely. Only so much will stick to the paint, whether you put it on thick or thin. The rest gets buffed off. So too much will leave a lot of residue still on, and that will look cloudy or hazy, and very uneven. If you apply one coat of wax, and then try to apply a second right after, the previous application will still be somewhat soft and the solvents/carriers will still be evaporating out. So your subsequent coat will likely just redissolve the previous one, resulting in more loose wax on the paint, and again making it hard to buff off and likely to be hazy or cloudy or "oily" looking and uneven. If you want to apply more than one coat of wax, you should wait at least 24 hours between applications to give the coat you put on a chance to really harden up and set properly. This should help a lot. If you apply a coat too thick, and then wait 24 hours, and then apply another coat, you'll have residue/haze that was still there, and then be applying more wax. This will also be likely to result in haze or cloudiness or an oily look, even though you waited between coats. The best way if you aren't that great at applying thin coats and ensuring they are buffed well, is to wash the car between coats. This is an easy way to ensure all haze and cloudiness gets removed from the paint before the next coat. So if you just wax your car every time you wash it, you will probably never experience hazing or cloudiness from the product. It's usually due to process, not product.
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Post by erw38 on Jul 6, 2004 9:43:00 GMT -6
What do you think of rotary buffers that cost around $15. The one I am curious about is from walmart. It has a foam applicator. Would it burn the paint? or would it be a worthwhile purchase...................I am just looking to putt more shine in the paint.....not anything near professional quality nor am I looking to spend high $'s
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 10:54:22 GMT -6
What do you think of rotary buffers that cost around $15. The one I am curious about is from walmart. It has a foam applicator. Would it burn the paint? or would it be a worthwhile purchase...................I am just looking to putt more shine in the paint.....not anything near professional quality nor am I looking to spend high $'s Those are not rotary buffers, they are orbital buffers. They should be quite safe as they don't have very powerful motors. The key is to use quality bonnets on them, as crappy application materials will scratch your paint even by hand. They are a fine idea if you just want to save some time, but expect results similar to hand application. It should be easier to apply products more evenly, though, and they'll require less effort from you. Again, though, what products are you planning to use? For a cleaner/wax type product, this would probably be easier and give cleaning more inline with a lot of hand effort, but only require slight effort. For a non-cleaner wax, where there is no action required, nor does it do much good, I can usually wax a car about as quickly and with less hassle by hand (no cords to deal with, bonnets to clean, my hand fits everywhere while the machine might not).
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 10:58:18 GMT -6
Mr Meguiars can take it from here Hey, here I am with Mr. and Mrs. Meguiar. I'm the guy all the way on the left (the only one who brought jeans to California). If you want to be extremely jealous, ask why a guy from Virginia would be all the way out in Irvine, CA for a Detail Day at Meguiar's...
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Post by RADEoN on Jul 6, 2004 11:09:30 GMT -6
why were you there?
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Post by JimW on Jul 6, 2004 12:47:04 GMT -6
hey 40, add that pic to the pic thread in Water Cooler I just heard yer a big player on meguiarsonline.com Word of mouth ;D
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Post by erw38 on Jul 6, 2004 13:56:08 GMT -6
Aurora40 is the official ACNA Meguiar's Pimp!
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 14:39:15 GMT -6
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Post by JimW on Jul 6, 2004 15:16:53 GMT -6
his name is Andy Zimanske, I posted yer pics of your sisters Bonneville on BC. And his reply was something to the effect that it wasnt fair because you were involved with Meguiars at meguiarsonline. Nothing incriminating, I just found it interesting!
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Post by erw38 on Jul 6, 2004 15:31:21 GMT -6
I just got through washing the car. I was thinking of appying a coat of that nano wax that I just bought. Then I was going to follow that up with a coat of Meguiars Gold Class liquid wax I have.
300 posts would be to long to wait, but you can't blame a guy for trying!
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 15:45:37 GMT -6
his name is Andy Zimanske, I posted yer pics of your sisters Bonneville on BC. And his reply was something to the effect that it wasnt fair because you were involved with Meguiars at meguiarsonline. Nothing incriminating, I just found it interesting! LOL! Well, those Bonnie shots were deceptive, as I mentioned. Notice they are all in the shade. In direct sun, especially with the sun reflected off a panel in the picture, you'd see the swirling that is all over the car. It is really deep, and my skills back then were not as great. Also, that car had Pinnacle Souveran on it, which is not a Meguiar's product. For $70 a jar, it better make reds look like that!
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Post by Aurora40 on Jul 6, 2004 15:52:52 GMT -6
Erw, you shouldn't have any problems applying Gold Class or Nanowax as often as you feel like.
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Post by erw38 on Jul 6, 2004 17:39:04 GMT -6
Woohoo! Edit - I just want to report on Eagle One Nano Wax. Great Stuff! It is very easy to apply and even easier to buff off. It fills hairline scratches and even fills in some deeper scratched (although not completely) . The microfiber towel makes the removal simple. After the wax is removed, the paint is like glass. I've never had towels fall off the car! It made my paint very smooth. Great stuff and the pice ain't bad either (FREE!) ;D
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Post by R4D30N on Sept 19, 2004 11:42:06 GMT -6
his name is Andy Zimanske, I posted yer pics of your sisters Bonneville on BC. And his reply was something to the effect that it wasnt fair because you were involved with Meguiars at meguiarsonline. Nothing incriminating, I just found it interesting! that's kinda weird (the last name), mine's Zamiskie :\
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