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Post by TJM on Aug 1, 2005 9:32:44 GMT -6
The up/down (memory or manual) on my passenger mirror has been out for a while now. I have checked the mirror motors and the switch with both checking out fine. The memory/manual for in and out works fine just no up/down.
Is there a module or control relay where the switch wires and the motors wires converge? I would like to check the wiring for continuity.
A wiring schematic would be outstanding.
Thanx in advance.
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Post by Roop on Aug 1, 2005 16:28:23 GMT -6
before i scan the manual for you, it only works when the switch is in a certain position... no offense intended but were you aware of that?
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Post by TJM on Aug 2, 2005 6:41:35 GMT -6
Thanks -- scan away - the up/down does not work with the switch in ANY position.
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 2, 2005 6:58:02 GMT -6
Sounds like its time for another mirror.
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Post by TJM on Aug 3, 2005 12:02:10 GMT -6
Sounds like its time for another mirror. nope - mirror's fine. I pulled the mirror off and jumped the motor. It worked fine. So the issue would be in the wiring/module/relay or whatever the thing uses. |
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 3, 2005 12:04:11 GMT -6
OK that's great news. Do you have the shop manuals?
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Post by TJM on Aug 3, 2005 12:29:20 GMT -6
no - but I'm hopin' ROOP can hook me up.
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 3, 2005 13:01:08 GMT -6
All three manuals are here for the 1998 model, which, I believe should be similar, should you need any info.
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Post by TJM on Aug 3, 2005 13:26:09 GMT -6
Great - if you can find it - im looking for the junction of the passenger mirror wires and the switch wires - must be like a module or something but i dont know where it is. my next step is to check the wires for continuity but i need to know where they go.
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Post by Roop on Aug 3, 2005 15:08:34 GMT -6
i don't know if this will help you out but... www.rserve.biz/carspages 147-0 and 147-1 in the 98 shop manuals are the electric diagrams for the aurora. notice that there's a special switch that checks the transmision position? if it's anything it's probably that. how do you, if possible, post attachments here? i added another scan, it's the only thing that sounded relevent. |
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 3, 2005 20:16:23 GMT -6
That could be it.
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Post by TJM on Aug 4, 2005 11:16:06 GMT -6
Roop:
I can't thank you enough...
That info is AWSOME and i think it has helped me isolate the problem to the Mirror/Seat Memory Module or associated wiring.
147-18 troubleshooting chart talks about a "Memory Mirror System Check". That information would be great if possible.
Now - does anyone know where the memory seat/mirror module is located?
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Post by scottydl on Aug 4, 2005 11:24:26 GMT -6
how do you, if possible, post attachments here? |
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Post by Roop on Aug 4, 2005 16:04:37 GMT -6
"147-18 troubleshooting chart talks about a "Memory Mirror System Check". That information would be great if possible."
it's a big section which is why i didn't scan it and mostly irrelevant. it is a testing procedure where you test all of the mirror control functions. it tells you what to do, what should happen and what shouldn't happen. the last section in it says the following:
"set the igintion to run. change the shift selector to reverse. Normal operation: mirrors move down. Abonorma operation: mirrors do not move".
it appears to be a testing phase to find out what the problem is. since you already know what the problem is, it won't help you. the throbleshooting steps for when "Abonorma operation: mirrors do not move" is what i scanned for you.
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Post by TJM on Aug 4, 2005 16:11:20 GMT -6
Gotcha Roop
Thanks again - Now, just gotta find that module...
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 5, 2005 7:54:19 GMT -6
Here it is:
"LOCATION: Left hand front of the passenger compartment, under the left hand front seat"
Interpretation: The Memory Seat/Mirror module is under the drivers seat in the middle towards the drivers door.
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Post by TJM on Aug 5, 2005 7:59:48 GMT -6
Many thanks to all!
I guess I know what I will be doing this weekend...
BTW - I think it may be time to move this thread to "Audio and Electric".
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 5, 2005 8:07:48 GMT -6
Yeah, you are right, this is electrical!
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Post by TJM on Aug 8, 2005 6:45:47 GMT -6
OK - followed the schematics (thanks Roop) and checked all wiring at the door jamb and behind panel. All checked out good. Looks like the Memory Seat/Mirror Module needs to be replaced (thanks for the location oldsauroraman, 'never would have found that) .
Has anyone else replaced this module? It looks to me like the easiest way might be to remove the driver's seat to get to all the connectors.
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Post by oldsauroraman1 on Aug 8, 2005 8:00:43 GMT -6
Thats right. There should be 4 of them, one at each corner of the seat mounts.
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Post by TJM on Aug 8, 2005 8:22:34 GMT -6
...accessed from under the car right?
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Post by scottydl on Aug 8, 2005 14:53:36 GMT -6
I guess I know what I will be doing this weekend... Have your digital camera ready!! This would be a great write-up. BTW - I think it may be time to move this thread to "Audio and Electric". As you wish.  |
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Post by TJM on Aug 10, 2005 5:53:32 GMT -6
Thanks for relocating this thread Scotty. Initially, I had hoped this would have been a mechanical issue; you know, like a broken wire in the door jamb or the like.
Does anyone know the cost of that module?
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