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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 18, 2004 18:05:30 GMT -6
Hey,
Premium fuel is down to $1.75.9 / gal. here in South Jersey. For Jim W in Canadian thats umm... lets see...4.259 goes into 5.754 times... ? no thats wrong....well..its....uh....oh nevermind. Anyway, what's it down to in your area in good ols US of A money?
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Post by Marc on Sept 18, 2004 18:41:52 GMT -6
Eastchester, NY....$2.399 per gallon....Sunoco 93 Ultra. _________________ GM!!! BRING BACK OLDS!!!
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Post by Isnibs on Sept 18, 2004 19:23:35 GMT -6
Letitroll98 Why do you try to cause friction between our American and Canadian members
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Post by kobalt on Sept 19, 2004 1:04:50 GMT -6
I was used to filling up with premium in my previous BMW and Maxima - I must say it's pretty nice being able to use regular and not feel guilty about it.
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Post by SupaStealth on Sept 19, 2004 1:55:16 GMT -6
hmm, back home before i left in august it was down to 1.79.9, here in milwaukee its about 1.99.9 to about 2.13.9
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Post by R4D30N on Sept 19, 2004 11:39:06 GMT -6
I was used to filling up with premium in my previous BMW and Maxima - I must say it's pretty nice being able to use regular and not feel guilty about it. 3.5 users don't require premium i take it?
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Post by erw38 on Sept 19, 2004 12:19:10 GMT -6
Nopw, they got lucky and don't require the higher octane (due to their lower compression, I think).
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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 19, 2004 14:06:55 GMT -6
Letitroll98 Why do you try to cause friction between our American and Canadian members Good question, why do I make fun of Canadians: A) It's really, really easy. B) I had done a great deal of business in Canada and was always mistreated by French Canadians. C) Toronto is way too clean for a major metropolitan area, I think they're all aliens and it's their base of operations for taking over the world. D) It's really, really easy. I hope this helps.
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Post by JimW on Sept 19, 2004 14:32:30 GMT -6
Good question, why do I make fun of Canadians: A) It's really, really easy. B) I had done a great deal of business in Canada and was always mistreated by French Canadians. C) Toronto is way too clean for a major metropolitan area, I think they're all aliens and it's their base of operations for taking over the world. D) It's really, really easy. I hope this helps. Eat my dust, Canada will always own recently here the octane count = cents/L ie 91 fuel 91 cents per Litre. 3.8L per 1 antiquated US Gallon. and the current exchange rate is about 76cent CDN = 1 US greenback Hows that for friction?
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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 19, 2004 15:29:59 GMT -6
Hmmm, lets see here.
$1.76 divided by .76 exchange = $2.31 Can per Gal divided by 3.8 L-Gal convertion = .61 cents per litre you would pay in the USA.
Umm, who rules? (Note: Highest price paid is NOT the winner in this game)
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Post by erw38 on Sept 19, 2004 15:33:15 GMT -6
Can soneone say animosity? ;D
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Post by Isnibs on Sept 19, 2004 16:48:16 GMT -6
Letitroll98 The question was
'Why do you try to cause friction between our American and Canadian members'
So those nasty French Canadians mistreated you and Toronto is way too clean for a major metropolitan area.
Why bring that here, to the ACNA a forum for the Aurora?
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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 19, 2004 18:58:01 GMT -6
Isnibs,
Actually, I don't bear any ill will toward our Canadian brethern. Jim W took it all in good fun, but I'm truly sorry if you took any offence. However, if you really didn't take this as tongue-in-cheek, then I revert back to arguments A and D.
Enough from me as this is all off topic. What about gas prices guys (and gals Amanda)?
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Post by erw38 on Sept 19, 2004 19:14:00 GMT -6
Everyone who needs gas, or is about to need gas, should fill up now because gas prices are on the rise again due to our not so good friend Ivan. When Hurrican Ivan blew through the Gulf of Mexico, the oil companies were forced to abandon the oil drilling platforms out there whice is contributing to a rise in prices at the pump. So fill 'er up!------------ $1.98/gal last time I checked (Allen, TX)
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Post by Isnibs on Sept 19, 2004 19:33:02 GMT -6
Letitroll98 You're funny so I accept your apology. ;D ;D ;D
One really bad thing about having to buy gas by the liter is that when the price goes up 1 or two cents a liter thats 3.78? times the increase to the gallon.
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Post by kobalt on Sept 19, 2004 19:39:51 GMT -6
Nopw, they got lucky and don't require the higher octane (due to their lower compression, I think). Shortstar has a lower compression of 9.3:1 This still allows for plenty of torque on regular gas at relatively low rpm (230lb/ft @ 3000), but produces somewhat low horsepower figure of 215.
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Post by omegaic on Sept 19, 2004 20:25:32 GMT -6
Both the 3.5 and 4.0 gen2's can take regular, right?
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Post by erw38 on Sept 19, 2004 20:38:38 GMT -6
Think so.
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Post by scottydl on Sept 20, 2004 14:23:33 GMT -6
Premium is $1.89-1.99 in my neck o' the woods, depending on where you fill up. I can get midgrade (which I usually use) at a few places for $1.79, but I'm waiting a day or two to see if it drops a couple more pennies.
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Post by kobalt on Sept 20, 2004 15:20:58 GMT -6
Upset about gas prices? Time for you to experience Europe! I strongly suggest everyone to vacation there at sometime, you'll all marvel at the low, low gasoline price in NA once you're back
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Post by kobalt on Sept 21, 2004 10:46:55 GMT -6
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Post by JimW on Sept 21, 2004 11:08:53 GMT -6
Complaining about gas prices is never a total gripe of mine, what I do complain about is the tax swath that the government takes out of our fuel. Its a kick ass way for the feds to get a nice cut. However, compartively the US pays the lowest amongst most nations with respect to fuel. So dont cheap out on the premium..lol 600 miles per tank on the hwy... I'll take the premium and not gripe about it ;D
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Post by Letitroll98 on Sept 21, 2004 11:45:36 GMT -6
Thanks kobalt, a good read and right on topic. And to imagine that I thought we had just another punk kid when you first signed up. ;D But then you're a friend of omegaic who has proved to be a good guy even through my jabs about his proffession, so that has to count for something. Surpising how personality comes through the keyboard on these BBS's.
As for high European gas prices, Americans have little realization of world prices for fuel. In addition to market conditions, the EU heavily taxes fuel and also adds a lot of environmental expenses. The impetus is to drive the market toward high milage cars and alternative transportation options. To a large measure this has worked. Europeans judge cars by how high the gas milage is first, then other considerations. Also realize there are a lot of substitutes to auto travel in Europe as you can get to anywhere by train or ferry.
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Post by kobalt on Sept 21, 2004 12:17:16 GMT -6
I realize it all too well. I was born in Poland and spent the majority of my childhood there. I saw firsthand how exensive it can be to fill up at the local gas station. Not to mention that people make substanially less money there. 1/5 the pay and 2X the cost leaves little gas for weekend getaways.
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Post by scottydl on Sept 21, 2004 12:57:36 GMT -6
600 miles per tank on the hwy... I'll take the premium and not gripe about it ;D Now THAT I'm yet to see in my Aurora, although I know you accomplished that kind of mileage. Would premium make a big difference in highway mileage? I figured it would matter more in city driving, when the engine has to work harder and burns more fuel...
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Post by dred98 on Sept 21, 2004 13:17:31 GMT -6
I read somewhere (probably on one of those other forums that someone had calculated that on a price per mile travelled, premium was actually cheaper. I really want to believe that so I'm not asking anyone to look it up or check the calculations. I filled up the tank today and it cost me $54.26 for 56.3 litres of premium. Please don't ask me what that is in US$ and US gallons, I just know it's expensive. The bit that really bugs me is that I bought the new Star Wars Box for the same money - and I know that will last more than a week.
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Post by kobalt on Sept 21, 2004 20:19:43 GMT -6
dred98 - Using premium gasoline in a car designed for premium gasoline will produce best gas milage. Your Aurora was designed for premium so it's the best gas to use. Filling up with regular, however, will decrease your gas milage - the engine will detect detonation, retard the timing to cope with it, and net lower gas milage. So stick with premium.
The opposite is NOT true for car designed to use regular gasoline: Putting premium in my 3.5 (which is meant to use regular) will not improve my gas milage. I'll stick with regular.
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Post by dred98 on Sept 22, 2004 6:18:04 GMT -6
I should print that out and read it every month when I get my VISA bill. thanks
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Post by scottydl on Sept 22, 2004 8:27:07 GMT -6
dred98 - Using premium gasoline in a car designed for premium gasoline will produce best gas milage. Your Aurora was designed for premium so it's the best gas to use. Filling up with regular, however, will decrease your gas milage - the engine will detect detonation, retard the timing to cope with it, and net lower gas milage. So stick with premium. How does this fit into using mid-grade (Plus)? I go with 90 octane, to save a little money but still get some extra octane. It seems SO close to Premium grade (91-93) that I wonder what the difference would be... ? Man, this subject never ends!
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Post by kobalt on Sept 22, 2004 11:48:22 GMT -6
scottydl - my guess is that since your car is designed for 91+ octane and you're putting 90 in it, you still get occasional detonation. It probably only occurs under real load like acceleration from red lights or stop signs, as the octane is SO close. I figure this mostly hurts your city milage and makes negligable, if any difference on the highway. In NJ "plus" is 89 octane, not 90 so you luck out.
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