saberry0530
Aurora Newbie
Its Better to run out than not have enough!
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Post by saberry0530 on Jul 17, 2007 14:27:52 GMT -6
If your car is running an OBDII PCM, then you can buy the HP Tuners software package and cable. It comes with 6 credits that allow you to delete, modify, and add parts and parameters to the original programming. I've used it on my sons 2000 Pontiac TA w/the LS1. We've done an EGR Delete, O2 signal delete, Cats delete, remap fuel curve, and increased timing at the track for higher octane fuel. With stock block, cam, heads and intake a best of 12.64@ 109. Since I have a '95 OBDI it will not work on it. I tried. If anyone wants to know more drop me a PM.
Scott
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Post by aurorabrain on Jul 17, 2007 14:37:01 GMT -6
If it was that easy we would all have it. If you look into it deeper you'll see that the only supported Northstar is the 06-07 and nothing else.
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Post by Speed Neon on Jul 18, 2007 10:10:00 GMT -6
i honestly think that this swap while it has merit will in the end be fruitless. i see the straightforward thinking but with an extra 50 horses that many of us will never use and no real increase in TORQUE.
as torque is what we need to move these big beasts. torque is what you use light to light, merging, passing, hard accel. its all torque. not horse. horse is what will get you to the autobahn speed limiter after the car is moving at a fair clip.
so that 50 horse increase may get you to the speed limiter a tad quicker, not much, but torque is what will put the smile on your face and press you into the seat.
but again our lack of knowledge in disabling the torque management makes even the best efforts a mute point. aurorabrain would you happen to have any in depth information on the torque management system?
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Post by unirok on Jul 19, 2007 16:59:24 GMT -6
Well it still would be cool for someone to actually complete the swaps they propose.
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Post by WillV on Jul 29, 2007 13:58:27 GMT -6
50 hp gain ? who said anything about that. If I were only doing an oem swap perhaps. I am shooting for the 350-400 hp range on the fwd project for my rora. In other news, Seat widths of .044-.052 are considered to be performance use only because of a short seat life. Stock Northstar seat widths are .031-.038, costly lesson. Also the valve to throat ration of the heads negates the need for a throat cut. I am now down to a two angle valve job. valve to throat ratio is @ 98% intake and 96% exhaust. It is slow going I know guys but I am doing what I can when I can. Also keep the pessemisim to yourselves it will be done, may be not on your proposed timeline but it will be completed.
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Post by KliffsAurora on Jul 29, 2007 18:36:58 GMT -6
Is it me or does anyone else feel left out here? I would consider myself to be a car guy but I've never seen a conversation about performance tuning like this. Bore and stroke, measurements, 2 sided this, computer that.... It's hard for me to keep up. Wow... I hope everything works out. On a side note, I look at this as something I tell my import buddies. If you want to go fast, buy a car meant to go fast. A Civic is an economy car. Same with the Aurora, it's a luxury car. My Probe is quick for what it is but I know it isn't or will never be a land rocket. Hopefully this turns out for the good. I am just curious as to how this will end up. I've seen other forums where someone says there doing something and they really aren't. Not saying this guy is but just stating a fact. Pics would be nice also. ;D
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Post by KliffsAurora on Jul 29, 2007 18:39:32 GMT -6
And.... I would really like proof. I never saw proof that my Aurora ran 14's but the previous owner said it did. I can barely keep up with an Intrepid light to light. I am not bashing him, just want to see it before I believe it...
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Post by WillV on Jul 31, 2007 0:25:59 GMT -6
How dare you put an Aurora in with an import!!! Not that I have any true disdain for the import seen, but the aurora is US born and bred. It appears that people have the Idea that all of my projects listed are being worked now, no. I am merely doing a 4.0-4.6 swap (fwd) with head and valve work to the transplant power-plant. Most of the FANTASTIC ideas were just an idea of future plans that were dropped to see what the overall mood was of the forum goers/aurora owners. I also believe the Aurora is a Sports sedan witch puts in with the BMW 3 series and Lincoln MK VIII And Mercedes e class (i believe e class) and various other "sporty" sedans. I beg you to state them as just "luxury" cars. Further more the birth of the Aurora is due almost entirely to "racing" which leads me to believe it would make a kicka$$ ;D ;D ;D "sleeper" and/or pro-touring car. Which i also think is what they had done with them for a while.(pro-touring) I would value some more constructive views and questions or perhaps ideas as to what to do with the future rwd/(awd?) Aurora. Perhaps questions ABOUT the swap and rebuild rather than questioning THE SWAP and rebuild. p.s. I will give some photos of my torn down engine and heads(in the near future) if it will shut a few pie holes.
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Post by unirok on Jul 31, 2007 13:34:07 GMT -6
) I . Perhaps questions ABOUT the swap and rebuild rather than questioning THE SWAP and rebuild. p.s. I will give some photos of my torn down engine and heads(in the near future) if it will shut a few pie holes. Not that we are calling complete BS on your project. Its just that this type of swap has been proposed over and over and nothing ever happens. It would just be nice for someone to show a completed working swap for once. Hopefully you will be the first..
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Post by centennialman on Jul 31, 2007 16:20:37 GMT -6
Everyone needs a dream; so much the better if it gets fulfilled. I had a 79 Monza with a 305/4sp/posi and started to get the parts together for a hipo 327 to do a heart transplant. Had the 4bolt truck block etc, but things just slipped away. Sold the car in 1990. Good luck with your project
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Post by 95mushroom on Jul 31, 2007 17:46:56 GMT -6
p.s. I will give some photos of my torn down engine and heads(in the near future) if it will shut a few pie holes. It's not that (or maybe it is ), but it's seems quite ridiculous for someone, not you directly WillV, there are many, many out there that swear they're doing whatever, that whatever usually costs a nice buck or two, and they won't/refuse to go buy a $50 digi cam and share it with everyone. I just can't fathom someone's budget and/or time is stretched that tight, yet they can post on the boards anyway...(Again not you Will, just some venting from some other boards and to give you an idea of where we're coming from).
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Post by KliffsAurora on Aug 5, 2007 19:50:04 GMT -6
X2
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Post by Speed Neon on Aug 25, 2007 18:44:48 GMT -6
i guess this swap went down the freaking drain............ but i know of something coming up that make everyones mouth water and jaws drop...... oh yeah its going down, like a plane crash.... stay tuned.
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Post by rushsampson on Aug 29, 2007 0:57:25 GMT -6
I also believe the Aurora is a Sports sedan witch puts in with the BMW 3 series and Lincoln MK VIII And Mercedes e class (i believe e class) and various other "sporty" sedans. For clarification purposes, actually, the Lincoln Mark VIII is a coupe. A rear wheel drive coupe, at that. And, as much as I love my Aurora, I know that it isn't quite in the same league as the Mark VIII, as I am so constantly reminded of by my father. It rides stiffer, has more low end sack, and handles like a sports car, more or less. While the Aurora is also a formidable V8 automobile, it is still a luxury sedan, driven by the fronts, with 40 less HP to play with. Different cars... :/
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Post by KliffsAurora on Sept 15, 2007 22:58:38 GMT -6
So how bout that Swap?
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Post by Marc on Sept 16, 2007 7:41:19 GMT -6
Yes. A progress report would be good.
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Post by Superdemon on Sept 17, 2007 1:12:12 GMT -6
This interests me quite a bit. Heck with the pessimists. To my knowledge Will is the first person to seriously start this project. Good luck with the swap.
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Post by Marc on Sept 17, 2007 18:11:47 GMT -6
If he decides that he's going to spend enough time & money on this, he'll get it done.
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Post by JimW on Sept 17, 2007 19:07:59 GMT -6
A 3.8SC swap would be easier and probably more worthwhile. I mean if you're going to go to the effort of a serious engine swap, you can cam it, get an LSD trans and all the other wonderful mods that are available to the 3800 crowd.
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Post by aurorabrain on Sept 17, 2007 20:51:17 GMT -6
I wouldn't go as far as saying it would be easier for a 3.8sc swap. Without a 98+ Riviera at your disposal it would be hard to get the parts to make it work. Some of us just happen to have cars at our random disposal though. I will say that the aftermarket is much larger though like you mentioned, and parts are cheaper than N* parts.
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Post by KliffsAurora on Sept 17, 2007 22:18:57 GMT -6
If your going that far then buy a W body. They come in so many versions and all are easily upgradeable.
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Post by Marc on Sept 18, 2007 8:14:02 GMT -6
I wonder how this project is going.
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Post by aurorabrain on Sept 18, 2007 9:57:50 GMT -6
If your going that far then buy a W body. They come in so many versions and all are easily upgradeable. I just don't get pulled over as much (almost never) in my Aurora. The Aurora rides much better, and is a higher quality car than your typical W-Body.
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Post by Aurora40 on Sept 18, 2007 10:34:17 GMT -6
I just don't get pulled over as much (almost never) in my Aurora. The Aurora rides much better, and is a higher quality car than your typical W-Body. You should get a Regal GS then. That thing looks like it is standing still when doing 100 (thankfully, since my wife has a lead foot sometimes). ;D No comparison on the quality or interior though.
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Post by KliffsAurora on Sept 18, 2007 11:00:47 GMT -6
I meant that if you wanna car thats easy to modify, a W-Body id the way to go if thats your cup of tea...
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Post by Speed Neon on Sept 19, 2007 9:22:55 GMT -6
I wouldn't go as far as saying it would be easier for a 3.8sc swap. Without a 98+ Riviera at your disposal it would be hard to get the parts to make it work. Some of us just happen to have cars at our random disposal though. must be nice to live in gm's backyard. they just throwing the stuff away, its like catch and run.
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Post by WillV on Oct 6, 2007 17:31:46 GMT -6
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Post by WillV on Oct 6, 2007 17:36:42 GMT -6
and... this is the head that I have done some porting and polishing to this is a combustion chamber on one of the 4.6 heads Notice the 4.6 next to the exhaust port, yes it is a 4.6 cadillac northstar hope to see about 250cfm@.335 lift Full image of the head that has had some work done on it, time is hard to come by. Intake port same cylinder, hope to see 300cfm @ .335 lift
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Post by WillV on Oct 6, 2007 17:38:44 GMT -6
last 4... the other head nothing done to it except marked the porting boundries the cleaned and ready to install valves, notice the two new ones (*#!?'n' wire wheel ate #7 cylinder intake and exhaust #2 valve crap required to be removed to get this thing to a block and heads (power washer gun not oem ) oil pan, block spacer, valve covers. etc, etc... Now please feel free to inquire more about this project.
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Post by budsang1 on Oct 6, 2007 17:47:45 GMT -6
looks like fun!!
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