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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 0:56:52 GMT -6
what happened?
lol im trying to figure this out.
on a night out with my lady i was running low on fuel, when the fuel gets low the gauge goes up to being full so i knew it was time to get some gas, since oil per barrel is about 33$ and gas is still 1.99 here im pushing it until they stop gouging, so i put 10 bucks in of regular at a citgo in the ghetto close to where i was at.
anyways i went to a friends house, left the car running for about 5 mins or so and went inside, came out and left, about a mile away around a turn the car just went into what it seemed like limp mode, low idle allmost shutting off, power cut way way down and the car would hardly move when gas applied. soon after this happened the check engine light started flashing, anyways i pulled over with it in netural and started revving it, the fumes coming out of the tail pipe were horrbile, like rotten eggs, that sulfer smell after you light off fireworks.. anyways i figured it HAD to be the gas i just put in, its the only answer.
anyways i continued driving with the car sluggish, i pulled to the nearest station immediatly put in another 10 dollars of premium gas, car started and was the same,about 2 miles away from here driving home the car under heavy gas would kinda cut in to being normal and cut back to being bogged down, then after a short bit it was completely normal engine light went away, i went to get some food and was in the resturant for atleast a hour came out car started rough and ran crappy, then it went back to being normal with the check engine light on steady, it would cut in and out of being like this, when it got choppy the engine light would flash, when it ran normal the light was on steady.
i do not have a code scanner and ill go to my local autozone tomarrow to get the code read, but until then all i can think about doing is running out that gas that is in there.
does anyone else think its gas related?
the car has 71k miles and never had any issues engine wise like this before,
thanks\\\
UPDATE: it is NOT gas related, the car is clogged, go to next page for my new post.
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 1:17:33 GMT -6
Definitely gas related. Some type of contaminant, likely water, in the gas.
I would personally drain and get rid of the rest of the gas. I would not allow the car to burn through what you've already got.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 1:31:49 GMT -6
how would i drain the gas? is there a easy way? its cold as hell out, it was 40 below the other day i would hate to do it like this, but if i have to i would.
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 1:36:55 GMT -6
There is a drain plug on the bottom of the tank.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 1:50:13 GMT -6
what type of tool is needed to pull the plug?
just a regular socket?
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 1:51:29 GMT -6
I believe so.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 2:40:54 GMT -6
thanks for your input, ill check it out tomarrow
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g26
Aurora Groupie
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Post by g26 on Jan 18, 2009 2:48:57 GMT -6
I would say this is a good reminder as to why our cars suggest premium gas. I have NEVER put anything but PREMIUM in my Aurora. Ok, one time I did, but it was not on purpose and though I didn't have this problem, the car did not run right. I put an octane booster which didn't seem to help any by my account and have used premium since.
to each his own,
G26
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 2:50:35 GMT -6
I would say this is a good reminder as to why our cars suggest premium gas. I have NEVER put anything but PREMIUM in my Aurora. Ok, one time I did, but it was not on purpose and though I didn't have this problem, the car did not run right. I put an octane booster which didn't seem to help any by my account and have used premium since. to each his own, G26 2nd Gens were designed to run 87 Octane. |
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 6:25:44 GMT -6
on the premium/regular thing, yes 2nd gens were designed for regular gas, and first gens were designed for premium, but i run a tank of premium every once in a while, as i know its good for the car.
any idea where this drain bolt is?
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Post by Randy T. on Jan 18, 2009 7:26:00 GMT -6
It also sounds like your cat could be clogged up.
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Post by aurora2001tan on Jan 18, 2009 8:17:52 GMT -6
there is no drain bolt according to manual  Fuel Tank Draining Procedure Caution Never drain or store fuel in an open container. Always use an approved fuel storage container in order to reduce the chance of fire or explosion. Caution Drain the fuel tank to at least 3/4 of a tank before removing the fuel sender retaining ring or fuel sender access panel in order to avoid possible fuel spillage. Failing to follow this procedure could result in personal injury. Notice Drain the fuel tank with a hose which has a 13 mm (0.5 in) or smaller diameter in order to prevent the drain hose from getting stuck inside the fuel tank filler neck pipe check valve. Damage to the check valve may result. Notice Drain the fuel from the complete system, including injector nozzle(s), the fuel pump, all fuel pipes, and the fuel tank if a vehicle is to be stored for any appreciable length of time. Draining the fuel will prevent the formations of fuel system deposits. Relieve the fuel system pressure. Refer to Fuel Pressure Relief Procedure . Remove the fuel tank filler pipe cap (1). Drain the fuel through the fuel tank filler pipe by using a hand or air operated fuel pump device. |
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Post by my1stluv on Jan 18, 2009 8:30:25 GMT -6
I would never put 87 in my Aurora.
The classic I had all kinds of trouble with foul gas 02 sensors. It was more picky.
I always use Lucas.
ez
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Post by Aurora40 on Jan 18, 2009 8:32:43 GMT -6
I can't imagine a fuel tank having a drain plug. That seems really dangerous. Generally you drain them by siphoning the fuel out.
Like Randy said, the symtoms also sound like a clogged cat. Though why it would happen all of a sudden seems odd, but I guess when they gotta got they gotta go?
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g26
Aurora Groupie
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Post by g26 on Jan 18, 2009 11:08:40 GMT -6
sorry for the missunderstanding. I didn't know the 2G were designed to run on regular...
G26
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Post by Marc on Jan 18, 2009 14:02:31 GMT -6
The 2nd gen will run on regular, but the the 2001-03 V8 will not develope the power that it's capable of using premium.
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 15:51:29 GMT -6
I was mistaken, sorry for leading you on as if there was a drain plug. :-\
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 17:41:50 GMT -6
I had the exact same thing happen to me with a 1969 Lincoln Continental. It was coincidentally in the Northern US states when I ran into this problem (Sorry guys from the Dakotas, but I will never be back!). Although it was a carb'd engine, it had the exact same symptoms, only it appears my case was worse - I couldn't even get the car to fire up. I had also just put in a full tank of gas. The ford lincoln dealership could only give the advice to drive the car and burn off the bad gas, and replace the carb.
Don't these cars have anti theft prevention for sticking a tube down to siphon gas? I know there is access to the tank from the trunk. Perhaps check out Home Depot for a pump to help suck out that bad gas!
I would be checking things like spark plugs, O2 sensors, Fuel Sending Unit etc
Good luck!
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bojanks
Aurora Passenger
Miss my Olds...
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Post by bojanks on Jan 18, 2009 18:47:06 GMT -6
g2's are great on regular 87, once fuel prices started dropping, i have been running Premium. it seems to run a little smoother, with improved fuel economy. i also used that Techron fuel system cleaner as well. it sure does sound fuel related.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 19:29:30 GMT -6
ok so i got the codes pulled from autozone
P0300
anyways coming home i seen some red stuff fly out the back end, i quickly pulled over, looked undernieth sure enough, the cat and pipe is GLOWING RED.
now my first question is, what can i do?
any ideas how much this is going to cost?
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 19:37:29 GMT -6
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Post by Marc on Jan 18, 2009 19:48:19 GMT -6
P0300, per the 2001 shop manual......"Misfire rate high enough to cause catcon damage.....the MIL will flash on and off when conditions for catcon damage are present."
First take care of the misfiring problem.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 19:54:27 GMT -6
what would cause the misfire? the guy at autozone told me to replace the plugs, like i said before there was no issues with the car until it started running rough like it does with the hot cat, it cuts in and out of running good, so think theres some issues with a misfire? what im thinking is either the bad gas or the cat clogged caused the car to run rough, thus throwing the code, there was no misfire before.
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Post by Marc on Jan 18, 2009 19:57:15 GMT -6
My guess: besides the plugs, the coils might be going bad.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 19:58:42 GMT -6
the car has 70k miles, i didnt think the coil packs went bad for a long time, anyways to test the coil packs to see if there running to spec?
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Post by latenight72 on Jan 18, 2009 20:07:09 GMT -6
The "bad" gas might be causing the misfires?
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 20:16:56 GMT -6
thats what i was figuring, so the bad gas caused the car to misfire and run rough,
now did this cause the cat to go bad too? does the cat need to be replaced now or am i able to replace spark plugs and things like that and then it would be fine?
what im trying to figure out is exactly what the problem is and i do not know where to start.
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 20:20:53 GMT -6
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Post by intheb0x on Jan 18, 2009 21:26:25 GMT -6
anyone??
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Post by robaurora01 on Jan 18, 2009 21:34:38 GMT -6
I got an idea, how about trying a fuel addictive/cleaner to your tank?
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