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Post by sall on Apr 13, 2012 13:09:23 GMT -6
Wooh looks like we need a headlight LED 'strip' thread! lol
Anyways, just siliconed the lexan lenses into the projector shroud! After they cure it's time to secure the whole shroud to the fascia. Then prepping for plastidip.
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Post by wireless on Apr 14, 2012 2:36:06 GMT -6
While taking the liberty to perfectly aim my fogs, i realized something lovely! They both have bowing. So my plans now are to put my stock fogs back in, and pull apart my blazers to figure out how to get rid of the bowing. Other than that... light output is amazing, and the cutoff is crystal clear
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Post by sall on Apr 14, 2012 7:59:08 GMT -6
While taking the liberty to perfectly aim my fogs, i realized something lovely! They both have bowing. So my plans now are to put my stock fogs back in, and pull apart my blazers to figure out how to get rid of the bowing. You will likely have to slightly move the shield one way or another. Since it appears they are sloping upwards you will probably need to move the shield back toward the bulb/bowl. Also, does this happen with both HIDs and halogen bulb. Check that first! HID bulb return wire may be upside down causing that bow/slope, but not sure if that's possible as 800 series bulbs can't insert backwards IRRC. Try a google search for: site:hidplanet.com blazer cutoff is bowing Did you not test run the projectors before mount? I figure you would have noticed that bow Also, saw a post you said you used hot glue before epxoy? I just mounted, aligned/aimed and epoxied all in one go on the car at my level spot and stayed put until the epoxy cured. You'll get figured out though! ;D
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Post by wireless on Apr 14, 2012 13:13:09 GMT -6
I did test the projectors before mounting - However, the bowing only shows up at a distance (this was 75ft from the wall)
Also, the epoxy I got from Harbor Freight is not worth a damn. I literally pulled out my fogs by hand.. >.<
Sadly, I won't be able to get my fogs back on today (Got a wedding to go to in a little bit)
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Post by sall on Apr 14, 2012 13:55:01 GMT -6
The fogs are foreground lighting to help at lower speeds in inclement/foggy weather. I wouldn;t consider 75ft foreground. Not that they should have the bow, they do have a slight slope. How did you aim them? As in how many inches is the top of cutoff at 25ft?
Need to knead that epoxy for minimum five minutes to adhere properly. It also helps to sand/dremel some scratches in to the projector and fog bracket for good adhesion. You can follow up with some other type of epoxy once 'tack' weld with the jb stik.
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Post by sall on Apr 14, 2012 16:05:32 GMT -6
Also, I went to secure everything in place today and really did not like the idea of the 3 piece shroud(one piece ABS sheet on each side of mini gatling) so did a little extra work for a better finished product. I epoxied the three pieces together for a one piece shroud which should look much better in the end. Pictures to come later.
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Post by wireless on Apr 14, 2012 19:15:37 GMT -6
yeah, 75ft though, they were still level - should I have pointed them down..?
I pointed them 100% level, it's just that they were bowing. haha.
As far as how did I aim them, I remember someone (JVX i think) on hidplanet saying that the foglights should be aimed 1-2 inches below the headlight cutoff at 25ft. I couldn't find any good guide on how to do it on there, though..
Wedding got rained out (the ceremony/reception was outdoors) so we had to leave. Good drive in the Aurora, though! nice and dry when I got home, got my stock housings back on and HIDs in them. Just testing them out indoors, though, it doesn't seem like there will be excessive glare (No chrome reflector on the top/bottom of the housing). However, it's still like looking directly at the HID bulb, so we'll see. I don't drive with them on in traffic anyways, so we'll see!
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Post by sall on Apr 14, 2012 20:01:00 GMT -6
Yeah that is way too high if it is 2" below the low beam cutoff. There should be a 1.5" drop from fog level height at 25 feet if light source placement is 18" or below. I measured about 13.5" from ground to middle of the projector. So, cutoff should be about 12" from ground @ 25 ft. Then you likely will never see that bowing. At least to that extent in your picture. Same with low beams. Should be a 2.1" drop at 25 feet.
I would think the HID in OEM fogs wouldn't be a big deal if you are only using them when needed not on all the time for aesthetics.
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Post by sall on Apr 15, 2012 11:18:31 GMT -6
ABS Sheet Rough Cut for Fitment for Each Shroud:ABS Cut/Shaped and Epoxied to Trimmed Mini Gatling:I cut and shaped the ABS with a dremel. Using a cutoff wheel and drum sanding mandrel. I would assume you could cut one shroud and use a hole saw to cut the circle for the mini gatling shroud. IMO it would be much more difficult to ensure the shroud is lined up where it needs to be(centered in front of Blazer projector lens). To attach the pieces together I used a two part plastic epoxy and filled any open space with flexible urethane bumper epoxy. The shroud fits tight as is but will be secured with a silicone bead around the perimeter. I was up in the air about this as silicone not the easiest to remove. I did a test with some cured silicone and silicone remover in an inconspicuous spot deeper in the fog cavity. The silicone was removed easily with no ill effects to fascia plastic. Hopefully still get the dip sprayed some time today. UPDATE: I sprayed a couple coats on the shrouds but it's way too windy to attempt the the whole dark portion of the fascia. I'd just be wasting the product and probably end up with overspray everywhere.
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Post by sall on Apr 16, 2012 9:53:29 GMT -6
Here are some pictures for example of the ultra slim ballasts I'll be testing tonite with 4300k. Old Key FOB for Size Comparison:Many 'slim' type ballasts have separate ignitors these do not:I'm sure they still make them. Should have no trouble finding a place for them under there for a test run.
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Post by sall on Apr 16, 2012 12:02:07 GMT -6
Hmm... well after mowing the lawn and allergy pill finally kicking in and on 3 hours of sleep, I decided to mount one ballast and install 4300k HID bulb while running a hastily rigged relay setup. I can tell with HIDs already that the bowing is much more pronounced even from only seven feet away. Will find out tonight. Have to remember these are halogen projectors and not HID so can't expect the same results given completely different bulb geometry.
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Post by wireless on Apr 16, 2012 16:03:34 GMT -6
Yeah, we can't have that bowing! Only problem, I'm having a lot of trouble pulling the projector apart..
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Post by sall on Apr 16, 2012 16:22:32 GMT -6
I've never removed the projector bowl from the lens holder on the Blazer but most just use a razor around the edge and pry open with small flathead screw driver. I've only ever removed the lenses. I'd just mess with the shield with a small allen wrench through the bulb holder and pull/push gently on the shield to see what you can do with the cutoff. You'll be wanting to pull the shield closer to the bulb to reduce smiley bowing.
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Post by wireless on Apr 17, 2012 16:59:54 GMT -6
How'd this end up?
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Post by sall on Apr 17, 2012 18:08:24 GMT -6
As for HIDs I haven't had a chance to mess with it last night or today. Will try to test tonight. It was too windy over the weekend to spray and no chance to get it done at once since then.
Get them apart yet?
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Post by wireless on Apr 17, 2012 18:15:19 GMT -6
nope, I broke my tabs when trying to pull them off earlier today so I've got to figure out what I'm going to re-seal them with.
These poor blazers are completely destroyed by me.. good thing they're cheap lol
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Post by sall on Apr 17, 2012 18:58:51 GMT -6
Just reseal them with some silicone II. This isn't a place for butyl. They use a silicone based sealant on them hence the chemical residue on the lenses of the pair I bought for another vehicle: Or you can JB Weld/Epoxy them but no getting them open again after that probably.
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Post by wireless on Sept 30, 2012 19:09:59 GMT -6
I still kind of missed these - they were awesome! lol.
BTW - I had found out why they were falling apart (eg, the left was aimed higher than the right) - my JB Stik had actually cracked in one spot, despite letting them sit an entire day.
Anyways - I still have my Blazer projectors lying around somewhere... still covered in Epoxy... still can't get them apart without using some serious force. These are a much needed upgrade for anyone wanting to get a different look for the front of their Aurora.. still surprised nobody has done this on a 2g..
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Post by sall on Sept 30, 2012 19:17:33 GMT -6
Yeah! I just used mine a few minutes ago! 2G would be easy! Too bad AFAIK TRS no longer carries these. Probably get the Alero ones to work in the 2G fog light though. Personally since they are sealed I would do a matchbox retrofit. Bi-xenon fogs lol.
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Post by wireless on Sept 30, 2012 20:32:23 GMT -6
I'm considering t hrowing some Nokya's into my Fusion for the yellow fog look..
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