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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 8, 2018 0:09:39 GMT -6
When I had halogen bulbs, my DRL worked. With LED, they do not work. Does anyone know why this happens? I've only tried one brand of LED so I don't personally know if it would work with a different set.
So how does the circuit work, does it send a signal on the same wire or a different wire, etc.?
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Post by RCA1186 on Aug 8, 2018 6:41:08 GMT -6
The DRLs use a resistor to reduce voltage and dim the lights for daytime running. I'm guessing it has something to do with the voltage the LEDs need to illuminate, perhaps that they aren't able to be "dimmed" so to speak.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 8, 2018 10:00:33 GMT -6
So maybe a "better" pair of LED's or find a way to make it full voltage?
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 8, 2018 10:03:36 GMT -6
Has anyone bought a set that works on the factory wiring setup? Eventually I am going to put tube DRL's in my lamp that would solve that issue, but it's just a good safety feature to have if I can help it.
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Post by tigger on Aug 8, 2018 16:21:13 GMT -6
For the 2G, when the DRLs are on, the lamps are wired in series, so they're sharing 12V. When the high beams are on (or you use the flash to pass feature), the lamps are wired parallel. They each get 12V. I'm assuming the high beams work, correct? If so, you could do some "creative wiring" of the DRL circuit so both lamps get 12V. I'll post a diagram... FWIW, you're the first member EVER, to my knowledge, to ask about making the DRLs work, lol! Most want them gone...
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 8, 2018 17:27:10 GMT -6
For the 2G, when the DRLs are on, the lamps are wired in series, so they're sharing 12V. When the high beams are on (or you use the flash to pass feature), the lamps are wired parallel. They each get 12V. I'm assuming the high beams work, correct? If so, you could do some "creative wiring" of the DRL circuit so both lamps get 12V. I'll post a diagram... FWIW, you're the first member EVER, to my knowledge, to ask about making the DRLs work, lol! Most want them gone... so I'm not too good at reading those. If I were, for example, unplug on LED and put the car in driveway, one should put gut up, right? Also not sure why people want drl gone they are safe and with the right beams your car looks nicer
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Post by tigger on Aug 8, 2018 23:43:36 GMT -6
so I'm not too good at reading those. If I were, for example, unplug on LED and put the car in driveway, one should put gut up, right? Haha, okay, I think you're asking, "If you unplug one of the lamps while in DRL mode (lamps wired in series), will the other lamp get 12V and illuminate?". Simple answer is no, there would be a break in the circuit at the unplugged connector. But if you jump the two wires in the unplugged connector, then yes, the circuit is complete and the one lamp gets 12V.
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Post by tigger on Aug 9, 2018 0:06:47 GMT -6
Connecting pin A4 on connector 3 of the Dash Integration Module (DIM) to pin C2 on connector 2 of the Underhood Fuse Block would give you 12V to each lamp in DRL mode... I think... sall!!!
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Post by RCA1186 on Aug 9, 2018 6:37:44 GMT -6
I kind of like DRLs too haha
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 9, 2018 10:25:20 GMT -6
Wheres the DIM at?
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Post by tigger on Aug 10, 2018 1:36:13 GMT -6
On a bracket attached to the heater box. Gotta pull the glove box and the panel below it for access.
But you can do the mod I suggested at the fuse block.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 25, 2018 12:34:46 GMT -6
So im not good at reading that diagram, how could I get it working on the fuse box?
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Post by sall on Aug 25, 2018 16:25:38 GMT -6
Connecting pin A4 on connector 3 of the Dash Integration Module (DIM) to pin C2 on connector 2 of the Underhood Fuse Block would give you 12V to each lamp in DRL mode... I think... sall!!! Missed this one. I believe that would work. At the expense of losing the flash to pass. Did not look at it too long.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 25, 2018 17:19:37 GMT -6
I see that and read that but it means almost nothibg because I don't know where those wires are and how to get a wire from the dim to the fusebox because the entire dash and firewall are kind of. There.
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Post by sall on Aug 26, 2018 20:36:12 GMT -6
I see that and read that but it means almost nothibg because I don't know where those wires are and how to get a wire from the dim to the fusebox because the entire dash and firewall are kind of. There. Hey I get you. I dont have much first hand experience with the 2nd Gen. I am Classic guy but I am sure we can talk you through it if you want to give it go.
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Post by tigger on Aug 29, 2018 0:27:00 GMT -6
...I don't know where those wires are and how to get a wire from the dim to the fusebox because the entire dash and firewall are kind of. There. You don't have to run new wire! They're already there, you only have to cut and tap the right ones! There's a LT GRN/BLK wire that runs from A4/C3 (Pin A4, Connector 3) of the DIM to B10/C2 of the fuseblock. That's the DRL relay control wire. And there's a BLK/WHT wire that runs from B7/C3 of the DIM to C2/C2 of the fuseblock. That's the HIBEAM relay control wire. Basically, you want to splice the LT GRN/BLK wire coming from the DIM into the BLK/WHT wire going to the fuseblock (use a t-tap). This will energize the HIBEAM relay (parallel) instead of the DRL relay (series) when in DRL mode. Both LED lamps should get 12V, and should work in DRL mode. You can make the splice at the fuseblock or at the DIM, your choice. Both are gonna be a PITA, FWIW. But, I've got all the pinouts, connector end views, component locations, etc. that you could ever possibly need... Let me know how you want to go about it.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 29, 2018 0:43:30 GMT -6
Without going in and doing that, is there a chance someone makes LED headlamps that could operate on 6v and 12v? That fit the housing, of course.
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Post by tigger on Aug 29, 2018 0:58:23 GMT -6
IDK, not my thing...
Google is your friend though.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 30, 2018 9:26:51 GMT -6
I have tried... and that is why I am here
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Post by sall on Aug 30, 2018 15:34:27 GMT -6
Without going in and doing that, is there a chance someone makes LED headlamps that could operate on 6v and 12v? That fit the housing, of course. Very doubtful. Usually the threshold is 9v. You are going to lose a lot of throw using the LED bulbs anyways. IMHO install 9011/9012 and call it a day. Install some quality aftermarket LED DRL.
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Post by derkach99 on Aug 31, 2018 9:50:15 GMT -6
How do your LEDs fill you high beam housings? I was skeptical about doing that since the reflector is designed for halogen, instead i modified and put in 9011 HIR bulbs and I am happy with them.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Aug 31, 2018 15:15:46 GMT -6
Mine fit fine. And no halogens will not give me more throw, the whole reason i converted was the halogens didn’t give me any throw. Properly adjusted, the LEDs work better than halogens in the original housing. You HAVE to do it right, though.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 1, 2018 8:11:38 GMT -6
Fair enough, I like my HIR bulbs though:) What kind of bulbs do you have?
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Post by sall on Sept 1, 2018 13:53:35 GMT -6
Mine fit fine. And no halogens will not give me more throw, the whole reason i converted was the halogens didn’t give me any throw. Properly adjusted, the LEDs work better than halogens in the original housing. You HAVE to do it right, though. They don't. The LEDs give you more foreground lighting. It's not really a point to argue tbh. LED is just not there yet for PnP application in a headlamp. Inside an LED projector or reflecor assembly designed for the emitter, yes. I've been playing with this stuff for years. Head over to www.hidplanet.com and read some tech info and what not.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 1, 2018 18:24:04 GMT -6
Well I don't know what to tell you, they give me more lighting than the halogens I had, which were new. My housings are also clear. My headlights are permanently aimed down below what they should be and arent able to adjust up (seized) and with halogens I couldnt see anything without brights. With LED I can see the road.
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Post by sall on Sept 10, 2018 8:20:02 GMT -6
Well I don't know what to tell you, they give me more lighting than the halogens I had, which were new. My housings are also clear. My headlights are permanently aimed down below what they should be and arent able to adjust up (seized) and with halogens I couldnt see anything without brights. With LED I can see the road. Claiming it was done right and then have the adjusters not working... Having the lamps aimed down is a hazard. You are getting all foreground lighting and perceived better vision. Fix the adjusters or get some used assemblies with with working adjusters. Drop in 9011/9012 and add some aftermarket DRLs such as Philips Daylights. If you want even go with a BiXenon HID projector retrofit and 9011 for supplemental high that is the overall best setup.
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 10, 2018 9:19:19 GMT -6
I said that the LED lamps are done right, but in general they are aimed down. Used housings are insane to find online, I wish someone made new ones. And some of the ones I saw had seized adjustors, too. And no, I am getting further out lighting. I dont know how you cant understand that. I even had them side by size (one lamp halogen, one LED) and could tell the difference.
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 11, 2018 10:29:33 GMT -6
What LED bulbs do you use?
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Post by AuroraGirlFromMars on Sept 11, 2018 10:37:00 GMT -6
Optix P.RA 3-Sided EOS 9005 + 9006. Since Ive got mine quite literally one year ago, they have been fine to me. It looks like their quality control isn't too hot(a lot of bad reviews of them failing or not fitting the housing.) They've worked for me so far. I might go to a higher quality set in the future.
Then my foglamps were JDM ASTAR Extremely Bright Max 50W High Power 880 LED Fog Light Bulbs for DRL or Fog Lights, Xenon White
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Post by derkach99 on Sept 11, 2018 11:25:09 GMT -6
how do those LEDs work in your fogs? I am looking for a upgrade for mt fogs with the original housing. I used to have LEDS from that same company for my reverse lights then i found better ones. Best reverse lights ever!
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