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Post by crashmedic on Dec 22, 2007 22:26:53 GMT -6
LOL!!!. Doyle is worthless, I hope he doesn't run again.
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Post by aurora2001tan on Dec 22, 2007 22:47:39 GMT -6
UM what about us stock 3.5 people , should we me asking for tunes on our PCM? What about other things like the magnastear and stuff that is programed into the pcm. Do we loose that? Does it get saved then ported back in with tweaked values?
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Post by ajxtcman on Dec 23, 2007 12:45:05 GMT -6
UM what about us stock 3.5 people , should we me asking for tunes on our PCM? What about other things like the magnastear and stuff that is programed into the pcm. Do we loose that? Does it get saved then ported back in with tweaked values? Magnasteer is not part of the PCM program. We should not hijack this thread. We should stay on topic  You can find several topics based on the year over in the performance section. |
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 24, 2007 18:04:38 GMT -6
On vacation until Wed. so I should have the PCM sometime next week. I'll update as soon as I get it installed.
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 26, 2007 11:12:42 GMT -6
THE PCM IS HERE!!! I'm going to install it at lunchtime and report my results then. Woot!! Ok, perhaps not at lunchtime. Alldata tells me the PCM is located behind the instrument cluster. Not really a lunchtime job. Soon though
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Post by aaaauroraaaa on Dec 26, 2007 11:37:11 GMT -6
THE PCM IS HERE!!! I'm going to install it at lunchtime and report my results then. Woot!! Ok, perhaps not at lunchtime. Alldata tells me the PCM is located behind the instrument cluster. Not really a lunchtime job. Soon though do it... |
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Post by austinator on Dec 26, 2007 12:09:19 GMT -6
THE PCM IS HERE!!! I'm going to install it at lunchtime and report my results then. Woot!! Ok, perhaps not at lunchtime. Alldata tells me the PCM is located behind the instrument cluster. Not really a lunchtime job. Soon though PCM is above the passenger kickpanel. Pull the 2 bolts for the kickpanel and drop it out. Then, disconnect the pcm and slide it out of the plastic bracket. It's a really quick job. |
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 27, 2007 3:18:42 GMT -6
Ok after ripping the dash completely apart my idiot self double checked Alldata and found out it's true location. Not sure why the component locator said it was behind the instrument cluster. Anyhow, chalk me up as a satisfied customer. A big personal thanks to ajxtcman on the setup. This thing is an absolute beast all over the RPM range. A healthy launch will pin you to the back of the seat now. On a steady cruise at roughly 40mph, romping on the throttle will break the tires loose with traction control off. After that it's nothing but hump and get it. WOT at a 60mph cruise will have you at 100mph in nothing flat. All in all I am VERY VERY impressed. Next stop is some dyno time (possibly this weekend or next). Not sure what I can keep up with now so I guess it's off to the track asap.
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Post by austinator on Dec 27, 2007 11:08:44 GMT -6
haha...I tried to save ya. Do you have a digital camera that you could take a video with?
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 27, 2007 14:04:00 GMT -6
I'm working on that tonight with my brother in law so video should be up real soon.
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Post by ajxtcman on Dec 27, 2007 15:55:01 GMT -6
On the old stuff (96 to 99) everyone says WOW
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Post by ajxtcman on Dec 27, 2007 15:56:07 GMT -6
I'm working on that tonight with my brother in law so video should be up real soon. I have a 12 second Northstar on street tires. |
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Post by ajxtcman on Dec 28, 2007 6:34:56 GMT -6
phydeaux PM'd me and told me he had an EVAP code  I forgot 96 and 97 have different EVAP systems. I had a guy contact me on the Caddy forum (Rondo) with a 98 Aurora Autobaun. I looked at the program in my spare time. With the LS1/Shelby PCM consumming my life I just used the 98 program instead of going into phydeaux. This weekend it looks to be snowing. This will leave me inside  I will get it right for him and send it out. I would like to get him a Shelby PCM also. |
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 28, 2007 9:17:52 GMT -6
...... Shelby PCM. Can you say WHEEEEEEE!!!! I was wondering if I bent a pin or possibly the pins being different on the two computers. Glad to know we got it sorted out. No big rush at all. Don't kill yourself figuring this out. I have nothing but time now and still have the stock PCM that I can throw back in to pass Texas emissions testing in Feb. Oh, I also noticed the rev limit was still around 5900rpm. From reading up on the specs on this motor is there any way we can get the redline closer to say 6300 - 6400 where the specs say it is. I know it's not going to make that much difference but it would be nice to hear people's comments at watching it go way into the red. Peace on you,
Jeff
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Post by Speed Neon on Dec 28, 2007 11:23:35 GMT -6
Ok after ripping the dash completely apart my idiot self double checked Alldata and found out it's true location. Not sure why the component locator said it was behind the instrument cluster. Anyhow, chalk me up as a satisfied customer. A big personal thanks to ajxtcman on the setup. This thing is an absolute beast all over the RPM range. A healthy launch will pin you to the back of the seat now. On a steady cruise at roughly 40mph, romping on the throttle will break the tires loose with traction control off. After that it's nothing but hump and get it. WOT at a 60mph cruise will have you at 100mph in nothing flat. All in all I am VERY VERY impressed. Next stop is some dyno time (possibly this weekend or next). Not sure what I can keep up with now so I guess it's off to the track asap. torque management disable? i am sure by removing the safeties anything can be made faster, as ur experi is no differnet than my 4.6 with the map sensor unplugged (no torque management). and not that i am knocking anybody or anything but there is a fine line to walk on durability. the engine may be able to take it, but what of the tranny. after a few weeks of no torque management my tranny started to leak fluid badly. a 40k mile tranny gone, with a bad axle support bearing. destoryed with the same hard launch burn rubber antics that you describe, but with traction control on. my point is this, we dont know what the classic can and can not do. and fixing a classic is not a cheap or easy task. proceed with caution. mines is fast enough with just the 4.6 swap. and as my ol lady said it "kel its a luxury car, not a hot rod. go fast in something that was meant to go fast" |
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Dec 29, 2007 6:22:36 GMT -6
Those were just my initial tests just to see what the performance difference was. All in all it's a mildly driven daily commuter. I'll mostly unwind her when the situation demands. Here in Houston traffic that will probably be more than most but I'm still taking it easy on her. At least until next year when I can get my guy to bulletproof the tranny for me. Then it might be a little bit of a different story.
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Post by ajxtcman on Dec 30, 2007 13:11:19 GMT -6
I found the mistake.
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Post by psron on Dec 31, 2007 12:46:01 GMT -6
AJ,
My userID is different over here... but it's the same "ronbo" as on "Cadillac Forums: Northstar Tuning".
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Originally Posted by ronbo
AJ, I saw your note re: my interest here... over on ACNA... and though I've been somewhat offline for a couple months, I need to get you my spare PCM for your latest '98 4.0L program (mine's Autobahn)
I still (hopefully) plan on working out a DBW controller for this monster '06-'07 87mm TB, but would like what you have for now.
What do I need to do? (I've had a spare PCM since my last chat with you)
Oh, and BTW... would the killer LS1 PCM happen to have DBW TB control? (that project makes my throttle foot nervous just reading about it, and watching your video!)
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I will catch you over @ ACNA
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Post by ajxtcman on Jan 10, 2008 6:28:21 GMT -6
I am waiting for new software to aid in my tuning. I can send you a PCM tthat you will not like or you can wait and get the good stuff
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phydeaux
Aurora Passenger
I keep extra bearings handy in case I can't fix it with a hammer
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Post by phydeaux on Jan 10, 2008 12:59:15 GMT -6
I can definitely wait on the good stuff. I can also send back the one you sent me because I have to put the stock PCM back in to pass state inspection next month. I'll leave the stock in place until the good stuff comes available. I'll see if I can get it in the mail this weekend.
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Post by JimW on Jan 20, 2008 13:23:46 GMT -6
Bumpity bump....any news? I've got a PCM core ready to ship out pending PCM programming success!
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Post by BlackButy on Jan 21, 2008 16:23:33 GMT -6
I too would have a PCM core available. What would the cost of this be, like Jimw said, pending the programing success?
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Post by aarcuda on Feb 14, 2008 20:12:48 GMT -6
I am going to need mine upgraded when I get my new motor installed. please let me know the details- cost and shipping address etc
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Post by jrmbrenner on Feb 28, 2008 20:33:27 GMT -6
Been reading this with great interest. I found another Shelby motor for sale. Need to know from the experts here, can I use it in a 95 with an OBD1 PCM?? Any help would be greatly appriciated,
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Post by austinator on Feb 28, 2008 20:41:28 GMT -6
Can double check with the brain, but I'm pretty sure that you can if you swap the intake setup(including sensors) and the knock sensor
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Post by jrmbrenner on Feb 28, 2008 20:54:09 GMT -6
Thanks for the rely. Brain any advise??
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Post by aurorabrain on Feb 28, 2008 20:56:14 GMT -6
No problems, just install your '95 knock sensor in the '95 location and run your 95 throttle body and injectors. The rest is all the same.
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Post by jrmbrenner on Feb 28, 2008 21:09:18 GMT -6
thanks guys, thats a big help...I'll let you know if how I make out.
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Post by jrmbrenner on Mar 1, 2008 13:35:28 GMT -6
Brain;
If you don't mind me asking, what is the difference in the 95 Throttle body and injectors? Different size?
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Post by tpis15 on Mar 1, 2008 15:09:46 GMT -6
95s dont use a MAF sensor, so the TB is different. And the inlet and return lines on the fuel rail are angled differently.
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I forgot 96 and 97 have different EVAP systems. I had a guy contact me on the Caddy forum (Rondo) with a 98 Aurora Autobaun. I looked at the program in my spare time. With the LS1/Shelby PCM consumming my life I just used the 98 program instead of going into phydeaux. 
I will get it right for him and send it out. 
